Best Heavyweight in the world

[M Bison]

AJ is favored over everyone ...thats not coincidence .I dont have to site anything its pretty common knowledge that Wlad has picked AJ to take over the HW division and looks like freedom did the work for me anyway..

Plenty pros in the game picking AJ over Fury too uhurmmm Haye I get the feeling Fury will bottle the rematch though I still hope that won't distract AJ from wanting to fight him.

[juggernaut666]

Plenty pros in the game picking AJ over Fury too uhurmmm Haye I get the feeling Fury will bottle the rematch though I still hope that won't distract AJ from wanting to fight him.

Stylistically Haye would be more of a threat to AJ .I think the Fury /Joshua fight will happen at some poin regardless of who wins or loses , i find it a bit mind boggling why someone would question AJ's skills and attributes over anyone at the top ? I guess blatent obvious skills have become transparent and taken a back seat to theatrics?

[soul_survivor]

I don't recall anyone giving Martin or Whyte a shot versus AJ, I'm sure their were a couple of imbeciles out there who said something to that effect but were just desperadoes hoping to see AJ lose.

I don't really dislike AJ, I wouldn't claim to be a huge fan either, I'd like to see him raise his competition level before getting excited over him firstly. And I think he could bomb Fury out early, I certainly wouldn't bank on it though, and I'm neither sure why anyone else would, unless they're swept away by his current hype having faced a series of bums in his 16 fight marathon of finding phoney challenges.

AJ can't bomb out Fury, when a guy like Whyte took him rounds. I will say that Fury has superior power to Fury but Fury, at this point, probably beats him in every other criteria.

[BoxingFan85]

If Wlad beats Fury, then Wlad easily rules the division for 1-2 yrs before retiring for good.. Remember he has 3 more fights left with his deal with RTL so he might fight Wilder, Ortiz & AJ - tough fights but not tougher than Fury imo..

If Fury wins, then Fury easily rules the division for 1-2 yrs until AJ gains rounds, experience & has good wins. If Fury meets AJ now, Fury wins on points.. If Fury meets AJ after 1-2 yrs, its AJ by KO.

Ortiz will not be among top 3 HW for sure, simply because we have taller guys Fury, AJ & Wilder who can keep Ortiz at bay with their jab & reach(AJ & Wilder still need to be consistent over 12 rounds).. Parker is a pleasant introduction to the division, but imo he will be #3 or #4 with Fury, AJ & Wilder top 3 (not in that order)

Even if Povetkin wins over Wilder, he cannot win over Fury as he is too slick..

[BoxingFan85]

Wlad was the man and Fury beat him, no way would Wlad say AJ is now the man to beat, no chance, source it prove me wrong. It's that type of trash that gives a fan base a bad name, you made that up right ?

AJ may be favoured by some over Wlad but the consensus is not AJ is better than Wlad right now, right now Wlad is recognised as the no.2. I'm not overly sure how many people genuinely believe AJ would beat Wlad right now, I'd wager even fewer would be prepared to put money where their mouths are.

Wlad would starch AJ and Wilder. Ortiz and Fury are the only two who give him any issues right now.

Spot On, but however Fury seems a bigger threat to Wlad than Ortiz because of his style & reach.. Ortiz doesn't have a lot of tools in his arsenal & does not have a good defense.. He can **** & he seems to have a good chin.. But can he sustain power punches by Wlad - I guess no.. On the contrary can Wlad take punches from Ortiz & hold him? Yes!! Wlad's clinch is much much better than Mayweather's clinch.. Something Steward taught him just as well as he taught Lennox..

[BoxingFan85]

I'd pick Wladimir to beat Ortiz all day every day.

I'm not just saying that because it makes Fury looks better, i just don't think Wlad would lose to anyone smaller than him. Wlad would jab him to bits, soften him up and KO him late. Fury had youth and speed on his side, Ortiz wouldn't.

Perfect! Ortiz's inside game is good, but it wont work against Wlad & Wlad has the subtle movement to stay out of Ortiz's power shots & land his own 1-2 & hold on.. It would be an ugly contest but I think it might go to the score cards imo.. Ortiz has a good enough chin.. but again Wlad can punch like a horse even at this age & even Fury agreed that Wlad's shots hurt him a bit and had a ringing effect later..

[Dr Rumack]

Fury's win over Wlad needs to be put in perspective. He boxed a guy who is used to taking no risks. Like when a counterpuncher dominates another counterpuncher, it can make the winner look better than he really is, and the loser look worse.

Joshua is not Wlad. He might not be as good as Wlad in a lot of ways, but he is almost certainly more comfortable fighting aggressively. He hasn't faced a big test yet so we don't know how good his offensive game really is, but he looks fast and sharp.

That's an entirely different proposition for Fury than Wlad was. The styles are just too different to draw any concrete conclusions.

[juggernaut666]

If Wlad beats Fury, then Wlad easily rules the division for 1-2 yrs before retiring for good.. Remember he has 3 more fights left with his deal with RTL so he might fight Wilder, Ortiz & AJ - tough fights but not tougher than Fury imo..

If Fury wins, then Fury easily rules the division for 1-2 yrs until AJ gains rounds, experience & has good wins. If Fury meets AJ now, Fury wins on points.. If Fury meets AJ after 1-2 yrs, its AJ by KO.

Ortiz will not be among top 3 HW for sure, simply because we have taller guys Fury, AJ & Wilder who can keep Ortiz at bay with their jab & reach(AJ & Wilder still need to be consistent over 12 rounds).. Parker is a pleasant introduction to the division, but imo he will be #3 or #4 with Fury, AJ & Wilder top 3 (not in that order)

Even if Povetkin wins over Wilder, he cannot win over Fury as he is too slick..

you answered your own post since the fury fight with Aj isn't possible until down the road... I still wouldn't favor fury's skills over him, its a stylistic nightmare for him no matter how much experience Fury has. I don't see how going 7 rounds with Whyte has anything to do with an improving Joshua by the time they fight .I can reference several fury fights that suggest AJ wipes him out.It means little as Fury is himself a much improved fighter than when he fought Cunningham .

[Simurgh]

Man who beat The Man - means Fury.

[boxingfan1986]

Why are people so reluctant to give Fury credit? He beat the best to become the best.

I know. I dont get it either.