Max Kellerman Says Mayweather is a cheater and NOT TBE in the RING

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Overall Kellerman is right. Floyd was the best ducker ever but a lackluster bore in the ring.

I see Kellerman in a new light. He is a wise man.

[Eff Pandas]

There's nothing "child-like" about having reasons for loving something beyond just the money. It's pretty much the opposite, where you have to have a pretty immature mind not to be able to grasp that. Funny you bring up Floyd, he has the word "Money" in his nickname and yet he cares about his legacy as much as anyone ever has.

I think part of the problem with our lil back & forth here is you think I'm saying people only care about money. I'm saying the #1 thing they care about is money. A lot less guys are fighting for legacy if no one is getting paid & a lot less sacrifice is going into it all if no one is getting paid.

I don't even think its debatable that people are more concerned about money that'll take care of them & their loved ones & family over chasing some title, HOF, great fighter or whatever type things that are ultimately selfish & immature, dream-like goals that aren't really realistic for 99.999% of guys putting on the gloves. The money is what keeps people chasing the other more altrustic &/or fantasy goals, its not the legacy chase that just so happens to have the byproduct of making nice money. I mean if the former was the case I think you'd be seeing more big fights happening instead of people fighting the best money for the least risk fights that seem to be the fights we see most of the time. I mean look at last weekend's HBO fights. Look at Canelo vs Khan. That surely suggests money is running things for most in the sport.

[Luilun]

I wouldn't be surprised if all of the top fighters are using some kind of PED but some guys can afford to pay for better, stronger, more potent and more effective drugs. They're able to get the cutting edge PED treatment and they're better able to hide from detection. Same goes with all wealthy athletes.

So you think Floyd is feeding Spence his goods

[Luilun]

His legacy seen by most people that know boxing is him being the best fighter of his era.

Only to the ****** dwellers to most he's the biggest Cheat of all time and was exposed on May 2nd for being that before people speculated on that but when he was caught cleaning the dirt he was exposed

[Robbie Barrett]

Only to the ****** dwellers to most he's the biggest Cheat of all time and was exposed on May 2nd for being that before people speculated on that but when he was caught cleaning the dirt he was exposed

ESPN are ****** dwellers?

Also before the Pacquiao fight



Those polled were HBO broadcasters Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman; Showtime's Al Bernstein and Steve Farhood; freelance broadcaster and Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame founder Rich Marotta; promoter Lou DiBella; matchmaker Chris Middendorf; Associated Press national columnist Tim Dahlberg; retired AP boxing writer Ed Schuyler Jr.; boxing historian and writer Cliff Rold and myself.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/where-floyd-mayweather--manny-pacquiao-rank-amongst-all-time-boxing-greats-062113734-boxing.html

Mayweather is viewed by most as the greater fighter. Deal with it Pac Turd.

[KLockard23]

I think part of the problem with our lil back & forth here is you think I'm saying people only care about money. I'm saying the #1 thing they care about is money. A lot less guys are fighting for legacy if no one is getting paid & a lot less sacrifice is going into it all if no one is getting paid.

I don't even think its debatable that people are more concerned about money that'll take care of them & their loved ones & family over chasing some title, HOF, great fighter or whatever type things that are ultimately selfish & immature, dream-like goals that aren't really realistic for 99.999% of guys putting on the gloves. The money is what keeps people chasing the other more altrustic &/or fantasy goals, its not the legacy chase that just so happens to have the byproduct of making nice money. I mean if the former was the case I think you'd be seeing more big fights happening instead of people fighting the best money for the least risk fights that seem to be the fights we see most of the time. I mean look at last weekend's HBO fights. Look at Canelo vs Khan. That surely suggests money is running things for most in the sport.

Yeah, no ****. People have to make a living, and when you know you'll be able to secure financial security for life, of course that will motivate you. Doesn't change the fact that people can and usually do have a lot of passion for something as unique as boxing and onve you know you'll be able to make a comfortable living either way, you're not typically gonna be motivated purely by money.

And there is nothing "immature" about being proud of defeating staunch competition, winning championships, and building a respective legacy to be remembered by long after you're gone, but you seem incapable of understanding this, so I won't continue to argue.

[Cracaphat]

Kellerman just keeps it real.You know who he's insinuating tho.

[HeroBando]

Kellerman is more of a Pacquiao fan than Mayweather. He thinks Pacquiao cheated. Last week Pac turds loved Kellerman this week not so much.

They both likely cheated, only one is the kind of POS to point fingers at others while doing it himself, proclaim himself the Ped buster of boxing, hire sham testers and use Peds as an excuse to duck.

[Weebler I]

He said everybody was probably cheating. And I agree with him. That's why I don't give a **** about drug testing. The powers of boxing neglect it, the fighters neglect it so why should I lose sleep over it?

People pretend to care about it to discredit fighters they don't like.

I don't agree with him, but he's a big fan of NFL & NBA juiceheads so he's happy to give them a pass. In Britain all that is heavily frowned upon, your name isn't worth dirt if that happens here, your reputation is that of a cheat from there forward. Ask Dwain Chambers.

On Pacquiao, he agreed to drug testing, I believe with a 15 day cut-off date but people on one (or both) sides didn't want the fight to happen. If Pacquiao was a confirmed cheat, I wouldn't give him a pass like Kellerman appears to be doing.

[Eff Pandas]

Yeah, no ****. People have to make a living, and when you know you'll be able to secure financial security for life, of course that will motivate you. Doesn't change the fact that people can and usually do have a lot of passion for something as unique as boxing and onve you know you'll be able to make a comfortable living either way, you're not typically gonna be motivated purely by money.

Who the f#ck said there is no passion for boxing by boxers???? You're arguing against some **** I didn't even say. I mean maybe thats the case with some guys or it becomes the case after you lose or lose focus or consumed with other things, but I imagine almost everyone in boxing operating at a high level is passionate about boxing. And of course people have to make a living & thats why I said money is the primary reason people are in professional boxing in the first place.

This was the original comment I was commenting on.

What is the point of playing any sport if any time you do something great, people think you're cheating?

The money. And specifically anyone in boxing to do "something great" primarily is a f#cking ****** or a child mentally. You don't wanna be getting hit in the head for a decade or two to primarily have a Sports Center highlight.