How can anyone enjoy UFC more than boxing?

[Fury4daWIN]

For the same reason that boxers now demand $10 million to fight their mandatories. When the economics is out of balance, the sport suffers.

You're right. When boxers get paid millions to fight bums why should they ever test themselves?

It's no coincidence that the weight class with the most consistently competitive fights is the same one with the least money invested in it: Cruiserweight. As a fight fan I'd far prefer there to be less easy money floating around in boxing. It'd result in significantly fewer shit fights and much greater competitiveness, as is currently happening in the UFC.

[Publius]

You're right. When boxers get paid millions to fight bums why should they ever test themselves?

It's no coincidence that the weight class with the most consistently competitive fights is the same one with the least money invested in it: Cruiserweight. As a fight fan I'd far prefer there to be less easy money floating around in boxing. It'd result in significantly fewer shit fights and much greater competitiveness, as is currently happening in the UFC.

Is the issue the amount of money or the way it is being spent? I guess it's beside the point.

I just don't find mangrappling to be interesting.

[Fury4daWIN]

Is the issue the amount of money or the way it is being spent? I guess it's beside the point.

I just don't find mangrappling to be interesting.

That's fine. I'm not a massive fan myself, though I like that it's an option for finishing a fight. There's more to fighting than just punching and UFC caters to that.

You can't deny, however, that the huge amounts of money available in boxing to a select few is really killing the sport in terms of competitive and timely match ups. Spoil a fighter and you turn them into a diva, I don't care how much fighting spirit they have. Less money and more pride would go a long way towards bringing the sport back to what it once was.

[Eff Pandas]

I'm liking the UFC more and more as time goes by. They do everything better than boxing. Better promotions. Better coverage. Matchmaking so much better you can't even compare the two.

I still much prefer boxing as a sport and probably always will. But I can easily see why people like MMA. A constant flow of fresh storylines, whereas in boxing everything just drags on for years. For the casual sportsfan, boxing is a boring sport to follow.

Pretty much agree with this whole post.

I definitely got issues with how the UFC treats its fighters & I think there is a fighter revolution that'll happen at some point through some next big bad decisions the UFC will make that affects fighters or just as more & more fighters casually get tired of all these straws continually be throw on their backs & a fighters union will be created that'll make the checks & balances between the UFC & UFC fighters more even.

I do think if I was just now coming up into combat sports today I'd probably lean strongly over to the UFC more than boxing just due to the structure of MMA via the UFC which has become the face of the sport + the main players in boxing are always talking about that fight you wanna see right now between the two best fighters that they'll make next year. Elite high level pro boxing is damn near become a form of BDSM for boxing fans.

I actually wonder if even my more superior love of the sport of boxing right now will change, as it has for others, due to how "me first" everyone in the business of boxing tries to put the focus towards & how few f#cks the leaders in the sport seem to have about the long term positive effects putting the best fights out there sooner rather than later would have.

[Publius]

That's fine. I'm not a massive fan myself, though I like that it's an option for finishing a fight. There's more to fighting than just punching and UFC caters to that.

You can't deny, however, that the huge amounts of money available in boxing to a select few is really killing the sport in terms of competitive and timely match ups. Spoil a fighter and you turn them into a diva, I don't care how much fighting spirit they have. Less money and more pride would go a long way towards bringing the sport back to what it once was.

Would it? I don't know, maybe it isn't that simple. Modern boxing is the result of an ugly combination of greedy promoters, indifferent television networks, corrupt judges, troublesome teams, and fighters desperate for a bit of the pie.

[Fury4daWIN]

Would it? I don't know, maybe it isn't that simple. Modern boxing is the result of an ugly combination of greedy promoters, indifferent television networks, corrupt judges, troublesome teams, and fighters desperate for a bit of the pie.

Yeah, there's definitely more to it than that, but you only have to look at the cruiserweight division to see what a lack of easy money results in. Competitive match ups with tons of action, pride on the line, top guys fighting other top guys, everyone giving it their all. It's like the only real bastion of old school boxing left in the world, and it's a shame more true boxing fans don't get behind it.

[-PBP-]

You're right. When boxers get paid millions to fight bums why should they ever test themselves?

It's no coincidence that the weight class with the most consistently competitive fights is the same one with the least money invested in it: Cruiserweight. As a fight fan I'd far prefer there to be less easy money floating around in boxing. It'd result in significantly fewer shit fights and much greater competitiveness, as is currently happening in the UFC.

I just think the cruiserweight division has lacked superstars for so many years in a star driven sport. Boxing is too reliant on stars. The difference between boxing and UFC is that the UFC brand attracts a fanbase whereas boxing fans gravitate towards individual fighters.

So that's where the money comes in. A boxer can make $2 million to fight a prospect because he is the brand that's packing the stadium, putting eyes on the tube and bringing in the sponsors. Whereas, with MMA, it's the UFC brand that's attracting the public. Of course you have your Conor McGregor's and Ronda Rouseys but the UFC brand is so strong it can continue on.

[Publius]

Yeah, there's definitely more to it than that, but you only have to look at the cruiserweight division to see what a lack of easy money results in. Competitive match ups with tons of action, pride on the line, top guys fighting other top guys, everyone giving it their all. It's like the only real bastion of old school boxing left in the world, and it's a shame more true boxing fans don't get behind it.

I don't disagree. I saw the Huck v Glowacki live and at least for me it was the fight of the year.

I guess basically between 140-175 there is a lot more involved in boxing that simply boxing itself. So fighters, and fights, seem much more difficult to make.

[JaguaresMx]

UFC has grown on me

The "Marinating" is minimal when fighters are in the same division.

Boxing has been in a rut since the great 2013.

Can't stand it. I am more likely to pay for a UFC card than boxing these days.

GGG vs. Wade is an embarrassment to the sport. I don't see a fight happening for sure (Kovalev vs Ward is not even sure) as exciting as Tate vs Rousey, or Conor vs Diaz (if it happens of course) or Jones vs Cormier

If that hurts your fragile boxing fandom so be it. I have been a boxing fight all my life but i am not going to fake it when it sucks.

I used to love baseball and scoff at basketball: i haven't watched a full baseball game in years and have become addicted to the NBA. Just a better product

Right now the UFC is a better product than boxing.

[hayZ]

As far as I can tell the sport is made up of half naked men grabbing each others asses. Oh, and women getting beat up on live TV which is apparently OK as long as other women are doing the beating.

I don't care how fuqqed up boxing is. UFC is pathetic. Not to mention they exploit their talent monetarily to an absurd extreme.

Wtf.

Boxing has women fighting as well. You ever watch a Anne Wolfe fight too from the past? Nothings changed, women still fight...all the time in MMA and Boxing.
There's actually hardly any female fights in the UFC since the divisions aren't that stacked and post Ronda losing they were pretty quiet for a while outside of Holm/Meisha.

UFC has the best fighting the best all the time. Look at Boxing, we have to wait years and years for BIG fights. GGG v Canelo has been going on for over a year now, who knows when we'll get it. Kovalev v Stevenson/Ward are we going to see it? Who knows. Wilder v Fury/Joshua? Who knows. Khan v Brook? Who knows. Loma v Rigo? Who knows.

UFC put on McGregor v Aldo, Frankie v Aldo, Cruz v TJ, Jones v Cormier, Weidman v Rockhold, McGregor v RDA (RDA got injured not UFCs fault) was arranged and all of these fights happened or were supposed to happen not too far from each other.

I LOVE Boxing but the politics is ruining the Sport. Too many promoters taking everything out of the sport without putting much back in. Dated methods of promoting fights. Fighters becoming divas because they think they're Floyd Mayweather when it comes to bargaining. Look at Chocolatito, he thinks he can sell tickets in the U.S. Nobody knows him, he is too small, doesn't speak English and isn't like a one punch KO artist.

I'm a fan of DLH because he USUALLY makes the interesting and entertaining fights happen outside of Canelo v GGG which I'm sure will happen sooner or later but even his promotion needs to step up their social media game and tell Canelo to learn English if they want him to become a HUGE star.