What's the Difference Between GGG vs Wade and...

[SilverMiles]

That's your problem. We all criticized Kell Brook vs Kevin Bizier too. Nobody is doing this to spite GGG fans. You just feel that way because you are a fan of his.

Look. Wade gets props for being a warrior and stepping up to the plate. There is no doubt about that. But he is not ready for this caliber of opponent. You and I both know this so why even try to justify it?

Look you're reading into to much.

I saw a thread calling this fight criminal yet the same posters are saying Johnson is one of Hopkins best wins. Some of these guys need to be educated and stop living in a revised history world.

You can't have it both ways, either you call a spade a spade or stop the revisionist history. Either both fights are criminal or they're both fine.

[-PBP-]

I never critique Brook vs Bizier or Jo Jo Dan or Frankie Gavin. I can't take part in calling good fighters bum just because they lack special attributes. I can't take part in your blind hate feast.

Since you like going through my post history how about you find the one where I defend Thurman vs Bundu or Canelo vs Rhodes or Peterson vs Santana or Kova vs Agnew.

Telling the truth isn't hating. Those were all terrible fights and they are too common this day and age.

I just don't get how a year ago, Dominic Wade won 2 rounds and didn't deserve to pass Sam Soliman in the Rankings. Then once he signs to face GGG, he's all of the sudden worthy of the #3 ranking and deserves a shot at a top 5 pound for pound fighter.

What happened between the Soliman fight and today that made him earn the #3 ranking in your eyes? All he did was drive cars under the influence of alcohol.

[SilverMiles]

Telling the truth isn't hating. Those were all terrible fights and they are too common this day and age.

I just don't get how a year ago, Dominic Wade won 2 rounds and didn't deserve to pass Sam Soliman in the Rankings. Then once he signs to face GGG, he's all of the sudden worthy of the #3 ranking and deserves a shot at a top 5 pound for pound fighter.

What happened between the Soliman fight and today that made him earn the #3 ranking in your eyes? All he did was drive cars under the influence of alcohol.

You still haven't illustrated to me the difference between Hopkins vs Johnson and tonight's main event because there is no difference.

and like I said before, I'm not defending GGG vs Wade, because quite frankly there's nothing to defend.

But I like to put things into prospective. And when I see people listing Mugabi Eastman, and Johnson as good wins I can't help but laugh at their lack of knowledge when it comes to the history.

And there's nothing truthful about calling Jo Jo Dan, Bizier, Wade, Gavin, or Bundu a bum. That's nothing but fan boy hating and whining. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

[-PBP-]

And atleast Wade is rank #3. Johnson was ranked #8.

Miles. You said this. Now you can't even come up with justification for this ranking that you mentioned in your opening post to say that Dominic Wade is the same caliber as Glen Johnson. How can he be ranked #3, ahead of Soliman, if Soliman beat him?

Glen Johnson is a good win in hindsight because we know he turned out to be a solid fighter. In 1998, they probably did view him as a bum with a padded record. Hindsight is fair game when you handpick a fight from nearly 20 years ago to prove a point that isn't there.

For every one Glen Johnson, there is 1000 Joe Lipseys. In Wade's 18 fights, he hasn't shown anything that says he will have such a career. So until proven otherwise, this fight sucks.

[TripleGFightFan]

The difference is one is ATG the other isn't...ask yourself how the ATG became an ATG...there's your answer...

[SilverMiles]

Miles. You said this. Now you can't even come up with justification for this ranking that you mentioned in your opening post to say that Dominic Wade is the same caliber as Glen Johnson. How can he be ranked #3, ahead of Soliman, if Soliman beat him?

Glen Johnson is a good win in hindsight because we know he turned out to be a solid fighter. In 1998, they probably did view him as a bum with a padded record. Hindsight is fair game when you handpick a fight from nearly 20 years ago to prove a point that isn't there.

For every one Glen Johnson, there is 1000 Joe Lipseys. In Wade's 18 fights, he hasn't shown anything that says he will have such a career. So until proven otherwise, this fight sucks.

Sorry but 7 years and 9 losses later is too far of a time span to say it's a good win. Are we going to give Wade that long too prove he's a good win?

But it is what it is. Johnson vs Hopkins = GGG vs Wade. Same circumstances and more than likely the same outcome. Can we atleast agree on that?

[SilverMiles]

The difference is one is ATG the other isn't...ask yourself how the ATG became an ATG...there's your answer...

Johnson isn't a all time great, he might not even get in the HOF.

[TripleGFightFan]

Johnson isn't a all time great, he might not even get in the HOF.

BHOP is doe...lol...

[-DSG-]

It's a crappy mandatory fight like usual from the IBF GGG just needs to handle his business and then it's on to the next!

[-PBP-]

Sorry but 7 years and 9 losses later is too far of a time span to say it's a good win. Are we going to give Wade that long too prove he's a good win?

But it is what it is. Johnson vs Hopkins = GGG vs Wade. Same circumstances and more than likely the same outcome. Can we atleast agree on that?

No it's not. Legacies are defined after fighters retire. Your problem is you want to singlehandedly crown GGG today when his career is still a work in process. And Glen Johnson is a puzzle piece on a picture that has Tito Trinidad, Antonio Tarver, Keith Holmes, Kelly Pavlik, William Joppy, Jean Pascal and Winky Wright. If Hopkins never went on to beat those fighters, he would be forgotten and not cared about.

Were you alive in 1997? Nobody gave a damn about Hopkins back then. He was seen as a fighter who emerged in a weak division after Roy Jones, Bodysnstcher McCallum, James Toney, Sumbu Kalambay, Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan left the division. It wasn't until the late 90s/early 2000s until people started to take notice and he got bigger and better fights.

In a nutshell, GGG today is on a bigger platform and further into his career than B-Hop was in 1997.

That and the fact that no reasonable boxing fan puts Dominic Wade on the same level as Glen Johnson. That's insane.