Abel critical of Hopkins Record. Says "he fought smaller opposition "

[joseph5620]

Conveniently ignoring everything in Hopkins career prior to the middleweight tournament.

The topic was the criticism of Hopkins biggest wins over so called smaller opponents. Both better than any Golovkin opponent by far.


Since you can't comprehend that and stay on topic, any further discussion about it is pointless.

[Mitchell Kane]

The topic was the criticism of Hopkins biggest wins over so called smaller opponents. Both better than any Golovkin opponent by far.


Since you can't comprehend that and stay on topic, any further discussion about it is pointless.

If you don't compare them at the same age and through the same amount of fights the comparison doesn't mean anything.

[joseph5620]

If you don't compare them at the same age and through the same amount of fights the comparison doesn't mean anything.

It's not meaningless when the trainer of the fighter with inferior opposition is being critical of the fighter who has faced and beaten the superior opposition. If you can't understand that, there's nothing else to discuss.


Until Golovkin fights opponentso on that level your speculation and age comparisons mean absolutely nothing.

[Mitchell Kane]

It's not meaningless when the trainer of the fighter with inferior opposition is being critical of the fighter who has faced and beaten the superior opposition. If you can't understand that, there's nothing else to discuss.


Until Golovkin fights opponentso on that level your speculation and age comparisons mean absolutely nothing.

It's meaningless because the Sanchez comment WAS speculating.

He's speculating if Golovkin gets to 20 defenses.

If Golovkin reaches 20, then you can compare the two at that point.

Until then, you can compare where Golovkin is now to where Hopkins was then.

And if you really want to compare their middleweight resumes, you can take into account that Hopkins had a loss and a draw in his first two middleweight title fights.

[Mitchell Kane]

The class of those guys puts GGGs entire resume to shame

Trinidad was a great fighter, he was not a great middleweight.

What's his middleweight record, 3-2?

Wins over Joppy, Mayorga and Cherifi...dominated by Hopkins and Wright.

If Trinidad were active today, I doubt he'd be favored to beat Golovkin at 160.

[aldo5408]

Trinidad was a great fighter, he was not a great middleweight.

What's his middleweight record, 3-2?

Wins over Joppy, Mayorga and Cherifi...dominated by Hopkins and Wright.

If Trinidad were active today, I doubt he'd be favored to beat Golovkin at 160.

OK we get it. Gg is the best ever. He be hypothetically beats everyone. The fact that you favor gg over a legend and great fighter like Trinidad is embarrassing

[Mitchell Kane]

OK we get it. Gg is the best ever. He be hypothetically beats everyone. The fact that you favor gg over a legend and great fighter like Trinidad is embarrassing

"best ever" is a strawman.

And if you want to take Trinidad over Golovkin at 160, have at it.

I'd take Golovkin over Jermain Taylor, too, btw.

[aldo5408]

"best ever" is a strawman.

And if you want to take Trinidad over Golovkin at 160, have at it.

I'd take Golovkin over Jermain Taylor, too, btw.

Coo you also take gg over Hagler too huh

[aldo5408]

"best ever" is a strawman.

And if you want to take Trinidad over Golovkin at 160, have at it.

I'd take Golovkin over Jermain Taylor, too, btw.

Cool you also take gg over Hagler too huh?

[Mitchell Kane]

Cool you also take gg over Hagler too huh?

Did Hopkins beat Hagler, or why is he coming up in a Golovkin/Hopkins debate?

Trinidad and Taylor aren't Hagler.