Who Did Better vs Mayweather: Canelo or Pacquiao

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  • Willy Wanker
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    #31
    Canelo looked like a total amateur against Floyd.

    Pac had a little bit of success at least.

    And Floyd fought Manny with a lot more respect and caution compared to the way he fought Canelo.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #32
      I wouldn't say Canelo looked like an amateur, even after the fight Mayweather called Canelo an all around good fighter and he usually doesn't say that about his opponents. In fact even today he has shown Canelo a lot of praise. It was simply a case of Canelo strengths being something that Mayweather was a master at.


      Pacquiao did better though, in spots it showed that he not only belonged but you saw remnants of what made him great. Even Mayweather admitted that Pacquiao was better than he expected, the biggest issue is that Pacquiao fought in a way that was never going to get him the victory, not that I think any other way would have did it for him but that was the biggest issue.

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      • Don Pichardo
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        #33
        Didn't read your post. B
        Pacqiao won 4 rounds
        Canelo zero

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        • _Maxi
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          #34
          Originally posted by El Gitano
          I'm not sure if this has been asked before. Since both Canelo and Pacquiao laid an egg vs Mayweather, which of the two would you consider did better versus Mayweather?

          Them Versus Mayweather:
          • Overall Punches: Canelo threw more punches than Pacquaio and landed at a tid bit higher percentage.
          • Jabs: Canelo threw more jabs and landed more and at a higher percentage than Pacquiao.
          • Power Punches: Pacquiao threw less power punches and landed more than Canelo and at a higher percentage.


          Mayweather Against Them:
          • Overall Punches: Mayweather threw more overall punches against Canelo and landed more and at a higher percentage then he did vs Pacquiao.
          • Jabs: Same as above, Mayweather threw more jabs and landed at a higher percentage against Canelo then he did vs Pacquiao.
          • Power Punches: Same as above, Mayweather threw more power punches and landed at a higher percentage against Canelo then he did vs Pacquiao.


          Looks like Mayweather was more aggressive vs Canelo and more accurate against him than he was vs Pacquiao, but at the same time, Canelo had more success in landing against Mayweather than Pacquiao did.



          Other Factors to Consider:

          Canelo was just 23 years old, pre-prime, his first big event and I won't say weight-drained but by agreement, he weighed in 2 lbs below the weight limit, and Canelo is naturally bigger than Mayweather.

          Pacquiao was past prime, he was a veteran in terms of big fights/events, he's naturally smaller than Mayweather and supposedly had a an arm injury.

          Score Cards:

          Mayweather vs Canelo

          116/112 Mayweather
          114/114 Draw
          117/111 Mayweather

          Mayweather vs Pacquiao

          116/112 Mayweather
          118/110 Mayweather
          116/112 Mayweather

          Everything considered, what letter grade would you give each Canelo and Pacquiao's performance vs Mayweather?
          Pacquiao. You can make a case of a draw or a victory for him http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...-decision.html
          Last edited by _Maxi; 04-22-2016, 09:45 AM.

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          • Bravado
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            #35
            Obvious answer is Manny. Canelo for as skilled as he is was gonna have one big issue with Floyd and that was because you cannot outbox Floyd in his prime or even close to it.

            Not to mention, Canelo has some of the slowest feet i ever seen in an really good/elite fighter. Even though he barely missed FM in a lot of exchanges, and a lot of people barely miss but still....he was ill equipped in that fight.

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #36
              The Manny power punches landed stats are f#cked up bro.

              I don't think you can go by the cards (that draw scorecard was bs too) or necessarily the overall punch stats (fights have different paces & strategies that can increase or decrease overall numbers & percentages).

              Looking at the fight I thought Manny had a couple times where he looked like he was making some impact. It didn't really go anywhere mind you, but I didn't even see that Canelo was looking like he was making a dent in winning the fight so I'd say Manny did better. I mean just look at that 4th(?) round. I as a Floyd fan from his amateur days was like oh **** in that moment in a way I hadn't been since Mosley landed his big shot earlier in his fight with Floyd. Canelo had no second where he looked that successful doing anything.

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