Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: Until Canelo Decides, It's Hard To Speculate

[HeroBando]

I've heard many theories in my life, but someone saying the bigger fighter is trying to drain the smaller fighter is up there with the best.

That's why Canelo went from badass to joke in 6 months.

[Chollo Vista]

That's why Canelo went from badass to joke in 6 months.

Canelo became a joke because he's the bigger fighter that's trying to drain the smaller fighter?

That theory doesn't make an ounce of since

[HeroBando]

Canelo became a joke because he's the bigger fighter that's trying to drain the smaller fighter?

That theory doesn't make an ounce of since

Yes exactly, he's a laughing stock. Even Lemieux was punking for this. The guy is the MW champ, wants a 155 for a mando (not really, doesn't want it at all). If it's a midget like Cotto you'd understand, but this guy is bigger than his mando fight night

[_Maxi]

There are so many holes in this theory.

Let's start with it's great to hear that GGG could never have fought Mayweather at 154 in the first place. A guy who walks around at/around 160 at the age of 34 would kill himself to make 155.

Keep digging your hole bud

GGG walks around 170, not 160. Nice try.
Canelo is the coward, period.

[Eff Pandas]

With the alphabet boys, anything can happen!

Except that I'm sure the WBC won't just ignore the contract they signed with Golovkin and allow Canelo to carry on reigning as their 155 champion if he can't come to an agreement with GGG on the weight. They almost went into bankruptcy after sued being for breaking a contract with a fighter a few years back.

Making Canelo interim MW champion till he grows up might be a way out for them. Lol.

LOL 1,000% anything can happen.

And yea I know I hate Graciano Rocchigiani to this day for not pulling the trigger instead of falling back with that. The WBC should be outta business cuz of that Graciano W.

But I think this could easily pushed back one more time too. "I mean is the fight THAT big? Can't we have one more buildup fight, cuz GGG is starting to grow his name more? Imagine if we fight on the same card in September & then make the fight for May 2017". Yea I can EASILY see that go down & K2 seem like suckers a lil bit to me with this situation. I mean they already pushed things back from May for some reason I don't really understand, this fight isn't gonna be bigger in Sept. cuz Khan & Wade got their asses beat.

[Bronx2245]

GGG vs Floyd was never a realistic proposition, just a way to get attention for Golovkin when he needed a profile raiser. His own manager described it a "fantasy fight" that would never happen.

Worth remembering though that Floyd entered the ring around 150 when he fought at 154. Canelo enters the ring at 175+ after weighing in at 155.

I keep saying this: Cutting weight to fight an opponent who is bigger than you is a different proposition from doing the same thing for a smaller man.

I guess you guys have convinced yourselves that GGG can't beat Canelo @ 155. I disagree! I think GGG can beat Canelo @ 155! If he can't then he's a B-level hype job!. Well, without Canelo I don't know who is out there to give GGG his "BIG" fight. Even that sounds bad because honestly it's looking like GGG will only have one or two "big fights" before he retires. Honestly I can't name 2 fighters out there that can take GGG's resume to a Hall of Fame level. That's a shame!

[Bronx2245]

There's no choice, Canelo is not fighting Ggg one way or another. His trainer just said it, some day, down the line.

That's the main difference you're overlooking: former SFW champ Delahoya wanted to fight the much bigger Hopkins, so he demanded a reasonable CW. Lineal MW champ Canelo badly wants to avoid his mando, so unreasonable CW, unreasonable purse split, and now some day, down the line

De La Hoya wanted to fight Hopkins because he was seeking to be "great" not "good." Floyd caved to Oscar's demands because he was seeking to be "great" not "good." Cotto caved to Pacquiao's demands because he was seeking to be "great" not "good." Canelo dropped to 152 for Mayweather because he was seeking to be "great" not "good." We all know GGG is "good," but what will he sacrifice to "great?"

[aboutfkntime]

Can you show me this?

If you show me this right now, I will completely shift the heat from GGG to Jacobs if this is the case.

My understanding is Jacobs said he wanted to fight BJS this summer. Not to say he wouldn't fight GGG if presented with the $$$ he's been asking for. Plus I saw a video the other day where Jacobs trainer says after the BJS fight, they'll target GGG.

But again, if you show me where Team GGG offered Jacobs a fight after the Quillin KO, I will STFU right here right now.

I'm not sure actually, I think I remember reading Loeffler saying that they made Jacobs an offer? but not 100% sure about that..... he did say that all the top middleweights are ducking Golovkin, and to be fair they are..... maybe not Jacobs, but pretty much everyone else is.

Yea, Jacobs/Saunders is the fight to make at 160, but that leaves GGG out in the cold, again.

I'm pretty sure they would take that fight if they could. Ramirez at 168 doesn't seem to make any sense at all, I'm sure they want Saunders and Jacobs.

[aboutfkntime]

Let's take it a step further and use an iota of critical thinking here and listen to what you're saying.

If Canelo is in fact bigger than GGG, then isn't it in fact Canelo who would be at an even more disadvantage at the lower catchweight of 155 instead of GGG who is the smaller fighter in your opinion?

I will never understand that one ??

Attempting to argue that a JMW is bigger than a MW..... is ridiculous.

[Eastcoast]

Canelo became a joke because he's the bigger fighter that's trying to drain the smaller fighter?

That theory doesn't make an ounce of since

It does when you factor in age.

It's no secret that younger fighters in their early to mid 20's can cut large amounts of weight and fully recover within 24 hours. Where an older fighter over 30 will struggle not only in cutting the weight, but rehydrating in that short of time.



At 25 years old, Canelo can still make that massive cut and still recover well come fight time. This time next year I highly doubt he's still fighting at 155lbs.

We see guys as they get older all the time unable to cut weight and have to move up. I remember when Canelo outgrew 147lbs, he had WW Matthew Hatton fight him at 150lbs. Then he missed weight at 154lbs vs Angulo and now has guys fighting him at 155lbs (even though he asked Cotto for 156lbs).