roach: "mayweathers unbelievable jab dictated the fight"

[Combat Talk Radio]

So you believe he was hurt...but then said he made up an excuse?

The excuse was that the injury happened before the fight. It didn't. Are you paying attention?

In addition to that, you're quick to believe that whatever Roach said is true (even though he's basing this on a fight he hadn't seen in almost a year) but already made up your mind that what Pacquiao said is a lie?

I'm quick to believe a guy who's on the receiving end of punches by said fighter, yes. He knows how hard Manny hits during mitt sessions. He felt no difference in power. NO difference = no torn cuff dude.

Plus, wasn't it already said that Pacquiao's arm didn't hurt again until Floyd pulled on it?

No, Manny specifically said during the post-fight that he WENT INTO THE FIGHT with an injured shoulder. That was not true.

If Manny hadn't said that, then why would he get sued over it? Think man!



Bottom line - Emmanuel Pacquiao lied to the fans TWICE. He wasn't injured going into the fight and should have simply admitted he got beat by a better fighter. Second, he likely injured himself missing punches DURING the fight, which led to his getting beat by said better fighter.

The funny thing is, he almost told the truth when he said he'd have beaten Floyd if he'd just stop moving. LOL

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

He threw the same amount of punches in the Bradley fight .

He threw more right hands after the 4th than before it .

He raised his arms way above his head after the fight impossible with a torn rotator cuff .

He never mentioned the shoulder at all until after going back to the dressing room to conspire with Arum .

You have got to be so gullible to not see whats has gone on .

So where did that red mark on his shoulder come from? Why when he had Floyd in the corner, he only used just his left when every other time, he used both hands? Why was his right hook missing in the fight? Why would he need to mention the shoulder right then if he already felt he won?

Get over your blind hate for Pacquiao and look at what's in front you.

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So where did that red mark on his shoulder come from? Why when he had Floyd in the corner, he only used just his left when every other time, he used both hands? Why was his right hook missing in the fight? Why would he need to mention the shoulder right then if he already felt he won?

Get over your blind hate for Pacquiao and look at what's in front you.

Its called rope burn happens on the back and shoulders of many fighters .

fckn red mark disregards all other evidence of him using it , lol you got a flat tyre and the wheels about to fall off best you wake up to reality .

His punches were missing because it was Mayweather you dummy lol .

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

The excuse was that the injury happened before the fight. It didn't. Are you paying attention?

It didn't? You know this how?

I'm quick to believe a guy who's on the receiving end of punches by said fighter, yes. He knows how hard Manny hits during mitt sessions. He felt no difference in power. NO difference = no torn cuff dude.

So, again, do you believe him when he said Manny told him he couldn't use his arm after the 4th round?

No, Manny specifically said during the post-fight that he WENT INTO THE FIGHT with an injured shoulder. That was not true.

If Manny hadn't said that, then why would he get sued over it? Think man!

Again, how you would know this is not true?

Pay attention. Pacquiao did come to the fight with an injured shoulder but it didn't give him problems until DURING THE FIGHT when Floyd pulled on it. It would have never came up if Floyd hadn't done that. But he did and it's shown right there in the fight. Nobody can dispute that.

Bottom line - Emmanuel Pacquiao lied to the fans TWICE. He wasn't injured going into the fight and should have simply admitted he got beat by a better fighter. Second, he likely injured himself missing punches DURING the fight, which led to his getting beat by said better fighter.

lol So any other time when he misses against opponents he's okay but when it's against Floyd, all of a sudden, he injures himself?

Tell me you're joking.

The funny thing is, he almost told the truth when he said he'd have beaten Floyd if he'd just stop moving. LOL

Because running was basically all he had to do to win since he had the judges payed off.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Its called rope burn happens on the back and shoulders of many fighters .

fckn red mark disregards all other evidence of him using it , lol you got a flat tyre and the wheels about to fall off best you wake up to reality .

His punches were missing because it was Mayweather you dummy lol .

lol How long did it take for you make up that excuse?

Yeah, it was Mayweather getting knocked against the ropes and fighting scared without Pacquiao even touching him....

[Pu·gi·list]

Are people about this shoulder injury again?

During training camp, Pacquiao injured it and HIS SPARRING MATES CONFIRMED THIS INJURY. THEY CONFIRMED THAT THEY WERE ALSO SENT HOME EARLY AS A RESULT. That's all the proof I needed. Other people (not Pac, Roach, or Arum) confirming it tells me all I need to know.

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lol How long did it take for you make up that excuse?

Yeah, it was Mayweather getting knocked against the ropes and fighting scared without Pacquiao even touching him....

I hate debating with kids like you because they sulk like children when you use logic and knowledge against them , go do some boxing for real kid as you will learn a lot more than you know now .

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Are people about this shoulder injury again?

During training camp, Pacquiao injured it and HIS SPARRING MATES CONFIRMED THIS INJURY. THEY CONFIRMED THAT THEY WERE ALSO SENT HOME EARLY AS A RESULT. That's all the proof I needed. Other people (not Pac, Roach, or Arum) confirming it tells me all I need to know.

Its called selective reasoning , where you believe one part and disregard the rest that sheds a different light on the original comment you believe in , adding it ALL up thats called logic , this is why we have court rooms to hear ALL the evidence .

[Pu·gi·list]

Its called selective reasoning , where you believe one part and disregard the rest that sheds a different light on the original comment you believe in , adding it ALL up thats called logic , this is why we have court rooms to hear ALL the evidence .

No, the sparring mates confirming the injury is the strongest evidence there is. That's all the information I need. It looks like you're doing the selective reasoning and disregarding this most clear evidence. OTHER PEOPLE CONFIRMING IT.

Pacquiao also asked for the shot to alleviate this injury before the fight and it was denied. Why would he ask for a shot if there was no injury going into the fight?

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

I hate debating with kids like you because they sulk like children when you use logic and knowledge against them , go do some boxing for real kid as you will learn a lot more than you know now .

Logic and knowledge? All you do is make excuses, which is obvious to anyone with good sense.

Go ahead and run like your hero Floyd. I know that's what you want to do.