How can Floyd be an ATG while fighting nobody tall and who actually had a jab?

[DinoCop]

He fought like 20 champions and it's his fault that champions didn't have jab?
And the Pretty Boy did fight guys who actually use jab.

[Sledgeweather17]

You must have missed when he fought ODLH then. Silly casual.

Only the greatest jab boxing has ever seen, and a taller fighter. DLH was over the hill too, and still almost took that fight. Prime ODLH sends Floyd into the press row in 5.

'wraps so you know who said it.

Oscar delahoya lost that fight 9-3. Only hispanic people and Floyd haters actually think that the fight was even close. Even Max Kellerman said that he scored the fight 9-3 and actually thought that it was one of Floyd's easiest fights, on which I agree, I don't think Floyd even had to leave gear two/three in that whole fight, and Floyd is a six engine vehicle.

The HBO commentators, OMG, blatant haters. I gave up on them when Emanuel Steward said that "it aint about the punches landed, it's about the number of punches thrown" , and the rest of the cast agreed with him.

Defaq is that ****! Aint about the punches landed? About the punches thrown?

LMAO! Mayn no wonder casuals are so confused about boxing.

And Oscar's so called jab that was supposedly effective? Lmao! I can count the number of times that jab landed on my one hand. It helped him to get Floyd against the ropes two or three times, but as far as actually landing the jab? Lmao! The only thing that jab caught was Floyd's gloves and air and Oscar abandoned it as soon as Floyd started countering it.

I do however don't feel sorry for Floyd almost getting robbed. I think it was his fault for not going for the knockout and simply coasting throughout the fight. I also blame him for lingering on the ropes in the last 10 seconds of rounds he clearly dominated. Oscar always does that **** where he throws a wild combo (that hits air and gloves) in the last ten seconds, getting the crowd cheering for him and then raising his hand in the air like he won the round or something, and that always gets judges to give him rounds he don't deserve. He did it against Pernell Whittaker too (although that fight actually was close unlike this one) and I don't see how Floyd didn't know that Oscar would do that considering the fact that that's his MO.

Anyway, hell no, no version of Oscar beats Floyd. And that 'he was old' excuse is lame, guy was only 34 and just lost every big fight he was in (mosley 2, trinidad, floyd, hopkins).

[Buckfever]

Because history will not judge whether he fought everyone at their peak. No weight is given to strategy and timing. He fought everyone in his era and that is all that will be remembered.

[Irony123]

Ray Leonard defeated Hearns, a 6'1 powerhouse with a jab like a cobra
Andre Ward defeated Chad Dawson who actually had good boxing skill, was athletic and tall. And ward is actually challenging kovalev now.
Duran defeated Ray Leonard who was much taller with great boxing skill (btw not even a duran fan, cab driver resume and losing ur highest profile fights much?)

Who the fk has Floyd defeated who fit that criteria?
Corrales, ODH? Corrales was an inside fighter.
Who has he beaten apart from an old ODH who had a solid left jab and possessed boxing skill?
He beats guys that fit his style and who has shorter reach than him and almost always shorter

Its harder to do a pull and counter when an opponent knows how to use reach.
He made himself an ATG with smart match making, and avoided tall atheltic boxers like the plague or actually tall boxers in general.

Whats hilarious is that he actually had the oppurtunity to fight one guy who was atheletic, tall with speed and he ducked him like the f**kin plague. And he wasnt even supposed to be on his level.
That was amir khan

P4P of last 25 years? Get the f**K outta here

I made a thread comparing Floyds run over the last 10 years because he was always labeled as the "Smaller guy" moving up 5 weight divisions but surprisingly only Oscar had a height and reach advantage and that was a hell of a close fight. anyways i got **** on... everyone came back with "Weight doe" argument.

[b00g13man]

I made a thread comparing Floyds run over the last 10 years because he was always labeled as the "Smaller guy" moving up 5 weight divisions but surprisingly only Oscar had a height and reach advantage and that was a hell of a close fight. anyways i got **** on... everyone came back with "Weight doe" argument.

That's down to the fact that size in boxing is about weight. How hard is that to understand? Do we have height and reach divisions?

How dim can one person be?

[FrankieClutch]

How can anyone be an ATG when nobody can accept greatness?

[Irony123]

That's down to the fact that size in boxing is about weight. How hard is that to understand? Do we have height and reach divisions?

How dim can one person be?

I never discounted weights, how dim can a person be that doesn't take into account that size isn't all about weight.

its like you guys have tunnel vision and can only argue one point of view.

[b00g13man]

I never discounted weights, how dim can a person be that doesn't take into account that size isn't all about weight.

its like you guys have tunnel vision and can only argue one point of view.

That's because size in boxing is all about weight you bellend. What you should've made was a completely different, and equally as dumb thread thread questioning the height and reach of his opponents.

****ing newbies. So clueless and make the most noise.

[Irony123]

That's because size in boxing is all about weight you bellend. What you should've made was a completely different, and equally as dumb thread thread questioning the height and reach of his opponents.

****ing newbies. So clueless and make the most noise.

i am sure it is... tards like you always narrow minded and only think one way.

in every thread i see you comment you bring 0 value and only insults so welcome to my ignore list... only the 2nd person to ever make it there so far.

[M Bison]

Ray Leonard defeated Hearns, a 6'1 powerhouse with a jab like a cobra
Andre Ward defeated Chad Dawson who actually had good boxing skill, was athletic and tall. And ward is actually challenging kovalev now.
Duran defeated Ray Leonard who was much taller with great boxing skill (btw not even a duran fan, cab driver resume and losing ur highest profile fights much?)

Who the fk has Floyd defeated who fit that criteria?
Corrales, ODH? Corrales was an inside fighter.
Who has he beaten apart from an old ODH who had a solid left jab and possessed boxing skill?
He beats guys that fit his style and who has shorter reach than him and almost always shorter

Its harder to do a pull and counter when an opponent knows how to use reach.
He made himself an ATG with smart match making, and avoided tall atheltic boxers like the plague or actually tall boxers in general.

Whats hilarious is that he actually had the oppurtunity to fight one guy who was atheletic, tall with speed and he ducked him like the f**kin plague. And he wasnt even supposed to be on his level.
That was amir khan

P4P of last 25 years? Get the f**K outta here

He is a P4P of the last 25 years but he isn't a P4P 25 or 50 of ALL TIME!
He ruined that chance of being more than that by his carefully selected career this is the difference between an ATG high ranking fighter and a highly skilled opportunist.

I look at Floyd more as a business man more than I look at him as a fighter he never really showed that fighter instinct or that will to always want to be challenged and fight the very best instead it was more of a less smack talk about someone don't fight them (create drama) wait many years when the fight should have happened long ago (6 years ago) then reap the awards he is very Joe Calzaghe-esque and Joe suffers from that and rightfully so but the huge but being who has Floyd fought that was as good as a prime Mikel Kessler?

I think you'll be hard pressed finding anyone of that level he just simply doesn't do enough for himself whilst Joe left it late he had rare little moments of fighting good opponents but Floyd could fight ANYONE at ANY given damn time but the fact is he'd much rather see the clock tick on down wait for father time to effect fighters then make a move which for me doesn't impress me at all and I see right through it.

Also I'm not really sure on him being a naturally clean fighter who isn't doping we all know boxing corrupt and its not quick to give us the truth too many question marks around Floyd the man I dislike as a person he is utter gutter trash and would likely be in jail for life If it wasn't for his boxing career I see right through these type of people fake as anything he is an egomaniac and he throws a tantrum when things don't go his way I just feel bad for the people who have had to work alongside him having to kiss up to him that can't be easy.