How can Floyd be an ATG while fighting nobody tall and who actually had a jab?

[LacedUp]

As far as I remember, Oscar de la Hoya had a somewhat good jab

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Killing them softly. Absolutely terrible movie but it has a few good kill scenes.

Thanks for posting that. It was a huge letdown. However, as you point out, that is one excellent hit scene. Very nice. Forgot about it due to the drudgery of the rest of the film.

[Infamous]

Killing them softly. Absolutely terrible movie but it has a few good kill scenes.

I thought it was but I wasn't sure... I dialogue f.ucked up the whole movie... Pretty good scenes tho...

[LoadedWraps]

Ray Leonard defeated Hearns, a 6'1 powerhouse with a jab like a cobra
Andre Ward defeated Chad Dawson who actually had good boxing skill, was athletic and tall. And ward is actually challenging kovalev now.
Duran defeated Ray Leonard who was much taller with great boxing skill (btw not even a duran fan, cab driver resume and losing ur highest profile fights much?)

Who the fk has Floyd defeated who fit that criteria?
Corrales, ODH? Corrales was an inside fighter.
Who has he beaten apart from an old ODH who had a solid left jab and possessed boxing skill?
He beats guys that fit his style and who has shorter reach than him and almost always shorter

Its harder to do a pull and counter when an opponent knows how to use reach.
He made himself an ATG with smart match making, and avoided tall atheltic boxers like the plague or actually tall boxers in general.

Whats hilarious is that he actually had the oppurtunity to fight one guy who was atheletic, tall with speed and he ducked him like the f**kin plague. And he wasnt even supposed to be on his level.
That was amir khan

P4P of last 25 years? Get the f**K outta here

You must have missed when he fought ODLH then. Silly casual.

Only the greatest jab boxing has ever seen, and a taller fighter. DLH was over the hill too, and still almost took that fight. Prime ODLH sends Floyd into the press row in 5.

'wraps so you know who said it.

[SugarRayCurtain]

LOL at the responses
Literally your guys defence to the argument is past prime Oscar Dela Hoya
Yes im aware of his good jab but lets face it he was past it, and wasnt as light on feet when was in his prime at WW
Furthermore it just illustrates my point, he was winning rounds with the only punch landing clean being the jab.

Youve named one fighter who was over the hill who fit the criteria. Shame on you.

[boliodogs]

He is an all time great in spite of never beating a tall welterweight with a good jab.

[hugh grant]

Floyd isn't the best of last 25 years. If the so called expoerts took the time to think, they'd realise that.

[Ray*]

You know you're ******ed when the guys who aren't Floyd fans are ridiculing you for an anti Floyd thread.

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Johnwoo8686]

You know you're ******ed when the guys who aren't Floyd fans are ridiculing you for an anti Floyd thread.

My thoughts exactly. People accuse Floyd's extreme fans of being ****** but I have to disagree, it's his haters who seriously lack logic.

[b00g13man]

OP should've put some actual thought into this