Comments Thread For: Fury: Since Title Win, I Get More Racial Abuse and Discrimination

[M Bison]

Tyson Fury - "I'm a gypsy. i live in a caravan"
Boxing Fan - "You're a gypsy, you live in a caravan"
Tyson Fury - "That's racial abuse and discrimination"

Lmao exactly.

[FrankieBruno]

Sadly most of the hate comes from my fellow Englishmen

These same guys hate Khan because he is a ****** and Tyson because he comes from a traveling background, while they suck off Jousha and other British black fighters

If the same crap was directed to Jousha or Kell Brook, there would be outrage.

Its ok to abuse certain people for their religious beliefs (Christianity and Islam) or cultural lifestyle such as a traveling background, but crack a joke about a black man and all hell breaks loose.

You only have to go on Furys twitter and see the shameful comments people type.

[whatismyname]

Preach Tyson preach. Our people have put up with this for too long. Us Irishmen face more discrimination and hate than any other group of people.

Lol really...u think the irish gets the most hate

[techliam]

Not in the eyes of the law or modern society it isn't. They're protected under the law the same as any other ethnic minority. You just purely went on the meaning of racism being clear physical attributes. That doesn't hold up academically or in law terms. That's not how racism or being a racist is defined by modern society. There is no difference between "racial" or "ethnic" discrimination. Racism covers things on not just an ethnic basis but a cultural basis as well, independent of whether they are actually described as racial (mind ****!!!). Both terms are widely used because they have been accepted in law and society. You say it's a misconception but that's exactly what you would be accused of under the law, racism. Your defence of "I wasn't abusing that person because of physical traits, it's because of all the cultural stuff and their lifestyle" wouldn't end well, trust me.

If you want to change the meaning of racism and racist that is accepted by society you better get to work as it's enshrined in law and widely accepted by people, or you could nitpick terminology's on Forums

Interesting response. Well, legal and academic terms are often very different, and in this case, the equality act was an act of public policy to tackle any form of dscrimination, not race in particular. It wasn't designed to specifically define terms, thats left to academia and left the law in a state were judges can apply the golden rule of vague and open interpretation. Its also an academic term as you say, as a term that covers physical characteristics, and in academia racism and xenophobia are clearly distinct, unless you have something showing otherwise. Racial group and race are also distinct, confusingly. Theres such a muddle in your post - you claim race covers culture etc in both academic and legal definitions, and then go on to state this is not how its perceieved in modern society, as if these were the same thing. I explicitly said how its a wide misconception, one which you share, so wider public perception is irrelevent to my post. Its that perception which is wrong, and which i've tried to correct here

Not really sure about your last claim. Racism and xenophobia can be just as bad as eachother..

[Corelone]

All I really care about is what he did in the ring. He beat the man, the undisputed, the general consensus. Wlad was like Frankenstein's monster and Fury poked a stake in his heart. Wilder and Joshua are pretenders with paper titles. Fury looms over them by what he did, and they got nothing until they get past him and what he did.

[Publius]

I don't know why everyone is getting all worked up over this. Fury is like Floyd in that he just spouts random bull**** to get a rise out of people.

[Publius]

Its ok to abuse certain people for their religious beliefs (Islam)

Haha, it's literally illegal to do that. The UK is fuqqed.

[turnedup]

Tyson Fury - "I'm a gypsy. i live in a caravan"
Boxing Fan - "You're a gypsy, you live in a caravan"
Tyson Fury - "That's racial abuse and discrimination"

EXACTLY! In a nutshell.

[Vinnykin]

Interesting response. Well, legal and academic terms are often very different, and in this case, the equality act was an act of public policy to tackle any form of dscrimination, not race in particular. It wasn't designed to specifically define terms, thats left to academia and left the law in a state were judges can apply the golden rule of vague and open interpretation. Its also an academic term as you say, as a term that covers physical characteristics, and in academia racism and xenophobia are clearly distinct, unless you have something showing otherwise. Racial group and race are also distinct, confusingly. Theres such a muddle in your post - you claim race covers culture etc in both academic and legal definitions, and then go on to state this is not how its perceieved in modern society, as if these were the same thing. I explicitly said how its a wide misconception, one which you share, so wider public perception is irrelevent to my post. Its that perception which is wrong, and which i've tried to correct here

Not really sure about your last claim. Racism and xenophobia can be just as bad as eachother..

They're not really. Academics will look at definitions of racism and how the meaning of the word has changed through time, In law and social consensus. I just explained the widely accepted use of the word in law and academia, not the difference between race and ethnicity in science which are separate altogether. Focus on the word racism and racist and what those things are in todays society without going scientific and you will have an easy time. Simply ask, "is someone being racist if they are prejudice against a different ethnic group as defined by law" the answer is, yes they are. and so how was I misconceived? lol my brain hurts

The term racist used to be (excuse the pun) black and white. that is very outdated today as small ethnic groups exist that share the same ethnic background. Laws have changed, people of the same ethnicity but that have vastly different beliefs, cultures etc have been included in racial discrimination laws and so the meaning of the word racist has changed. Like I said before, racial and ethnic discrimination is the same thing in the eyes of the law, you're a racist if you're prejudiced towards ethnic groups, not just races as defined by physical traits

Xenophobia is a social action of Racism so I don't know what you mean by that? It's racism in mind-set and action. You can have a fear or hatred of another ethnic group (xenophobic). This can be achieved simply by having a large influx of foreigners come into the community, I hated polish people when they took awr jabs! was wary of them, didn't trust them etc got over it. It's another describing word but very specific to thoughts and actions. Racism is vast now and includes xenophobia in many cases.

Any way good talk. Maybe it's confusing and not clearly enough defined nowadays.

[SouthPawHitman]

Lol really...u think the irish gets the most hate

That's what I said isn't it?