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  • #71
    Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
    Look I'm not saying joshua is unbeatable or he can't lose....what I'm saying is he has more than enough in his arsenal to cope with the likes of fury or wilder
    If you mean can he KO Fury or Wilder if they stand dead a$$ in front of him sure he gots more than enough in his arsenal. And truth be told I think I'd probably favor him over Wilder if that fight got made tomorrow even doe Joshua has an inferior resume (which sounds odd to say vs Wilder's resume, but I believe to be true) & has proven less in the ring outside of he can punch. I just don't think Fury is gonna stand in front of Joshua all night. People always talk about the Cunningham KD like thats the most meaningful part of Fury's career or that Fury is a cardboard cutout just waiting to be blown over. Any fighter thinking that is severely hurting his chances of beating Fury. And any fan that thinks that DKSAB.

    but your wrong to just right off joshua as a muscle type kind of fighter because holyfield was also muscle bound...so was norton
    Holyfield was a smaller guy who moved up & had some quickness so while he was for sure musclebound I think he is a lil bit of an anomaly. He also never had a long string of wins & while he was at the top for awhile he was never THE top guy for long.

    And while Norton was a brickhouse for his time in comparison to the names mentioned I don't see him competing with them in muscleboundness.




    now if joshua beats fury,wilder,haye and a few others and then loses to some other fighter will you put that down to him being muscle bound or just a fighter that came along and just had his number....all joshua can do is keep winning and if beats all the top heavies then give credit where credit is due...that's all anybody asks
    I'm not saying I don't give him credit. I'm not sure where you would have gotten that from. I'm saying these types of fighters tend to have certain types of outcomes. Who ends up bringing that outcome to Joshua is up for debate. I say its Fury if they fight this year as Hearn is discussing. I suspect it could be Joseph Parker. But don't get it twisted I ain't saying Joshua is gonna be David Price this time next year. I mean look at who I compared him too. Mike Tyson & Frank Bruno two great fighters in their own right who had impressive runs on the way up like Joshua has had thus far & multiple reigns as champion. Thats hardly a insult. I honestly don't think I'm being that critical of the guy I'm just not seeing him being some Dempsey-level guy destruction wise & Louis-level guy in his reign as some seem to think he'll be.
    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 04-14-2016, 12:31 PM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
      If you mean can he KO Fury or Wilder if they stand dead a$$ in front of him sure he gots more than enough in his arsenal. And truth be told I think I'd probably favor him over Wilder if that fight got made tomorrow even doe Joshua has an inferior resume (which sounds odd to say vs Wilder's resume, but I believe to be true) & has proven less in the ring outside of he can punch. I just don't think Fury is gonna stand in front of Joshua all night. People always talk about the Cunningham KD like thats the most meaningful part of Fury's career or that Fury is a cardboard cutout just waiting to be blown over. Any fighter thinking that is severely hurting his chances of beating Fury. And any fan that thinks that DKSAB.



      Holyfield was a smaller guy who moved up & had some quickness so while he was for sure musclebound I think he is a lil bit of an anomaly. He also never had a long string of wins & while he was at the top for awhile he was never THE top guy for long.

      And while Norton was a brickhouse for his time in comparison to the names mentioned I don't see him competing with them in muscleboundness.






      I'm not saying I don't give him credit. I'm not sure where you would have gotten that from. I'm saying these types of fighters tend to have certain types of outcomes. Who ends up bringing that outcome to Joshua is up for debate. I say its Fury if they fight this year as Hearn is discussing. I suspect it could be Joseph Parker. But don't get it twisted I ain't saying Joshua is gonna be David Price this time next year. I mean look at who I compared him too. Mike Tyson & Frank Bruno two great fighters in their own right who had impressive runs on the way up like Joshua has had thus far & multiple reigns as champion. Thats hardly a insult. I honestly don't think I'm being that critical of the guy I'm just not seeing him being some Dempsey-level guy destruction wise & Louis-level guy in his reign as some seem to think he'll be.
      Yeah but that's hindsight and till the day he does come up against a fighter who can outbox him then you can't knock him....we can clearly see that joshua is a quick combination puncher and all you have to do is go back watch the fights with Skelton, Kevin Johnson or Michael sprott to see what kind of hand speed he has when unloading.....now you compare Bruno lol....well listen I have seen Bruno fight in the flesh 3 times and the last time was when he alot to lennox Lewis in Cardiff so I have a first hand opinion..Bruno was a one punch pony and if you think joshua has any comparison to him you will be totally wrong....as the Martin fight drew closer a lot of posters on here said it could go either way or joshua would lose and looked what happened...he didn't even break sweat and eased past him.....with regards to norton at that time he was considered a Hercules and Adonis with his perfect physique...so your wrong there...it's just that the fighters have gotten bigger that's it ....now I'm telling you straight up.....tyson fury will not beat joshua and I will stake my house on it....haye has more chance of beating joshua because he has explosive power and has impeccable timing...the way fury boxed klitchcko will not cut it with joshua because he will throw punches and walk through what fury has to throw....Mark my words...I'm not wrong about fighters and I'm telling joshua if he continues the way he is will be top of the division and will be a tough fighter to beat.....u can have fury and I'll have joshua and let's see who rules the roost...untill they fight we can debate all we want

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
        Yeah but that's hindsight and till the day he does come up against a fighter who can outbox him then you can't knock him....
        What does this even mean? Fury is undefeated yet are you not knocking him? Why is Joshua's undefeatedness superior to Fury's undefeatedness? Also of course I or you or anyone can knock anyone. Theres no anti-being critical rules on NSB.

        with regards to norton at that time he was considered a Hercules and Adonis with his perfect physique...so your wrong there...it's just that the fighters have gotten bigger that's it
        Bro thats exactly what I said. What I'm getting at is I just don't think he was musclebound enough where his body wasn't as inefficient late in fights as I'd argue Tyson, Bruno & Joshua were/will be.

        I just think there is a critical mass of muscle that is counterproductive to a sport like boxing when you get deeper into a fight that is pretty much exclusive to the HW division. Early on in a fight its super productive cuz that superior muscle has superior strength & you'll KO more guys like all these guys have done/been doing. Later on not so much. Those muscles require more oxygen & they will always slow you down. Its more science than speculation Joshua is gonna have this problem. I watch musclebound guys box, fight MMA, kickbox, grapple, compete in Bjj & they always got inferior cardio that can catch up with them in longer fights. Comes with the territory.

        now I'm telling you straight up.....tyson fury will not beat joshua and I will stake my house on it
        Alrite Freddie Roach. Also this is a sign of a ******** addiction or fanboy-ism lol. All I know if you are extremely underrating Fury for whatever reason.

        haye has more chance of beating joshua because he has explosive power and has impeccable timing
        Haye for sure has a chance. I've seen some amateur fights where Joshua's chin has seemed... more susceptible lets say & Haye has power. Anyone with power has a chance vs Joshua. Whyte showed that. Based off of that Whyte fight I suspected Martin could make things interesting too, but he wasn't willing to take any chances like Whyte was so things didn't work out well for him.

        I'm not wrong about fighters
        Between this & the house bet you sound borderline nuts brother lol. Everyone is wrong about fighters sometimes. If you aren't you must be new to boxing or something.

        and I'm telling joshua if he continues the way he is will be top of the division and will be a tough fighter to beat.....u can have fury and I'll have joshua and let's see who rules the roost...untill they fight we can debate all we want
        Lotsa guys are tough guys to beat for awhile. Alot of fighters who become top 5 tend to be in fact I'd argue. Its not that foreign a concept for a elite level guy to be hard to beat. And lets not act like Joshua has done anything to suggest he's gonna be THAT tough to beat. A unproven prospect gave him some tense moments. If that is the case what happens when he's in there with a legit contender who's giving him tense moments? I can't confidently say he comes out on top & I don't see how anyone could without question say he does.

        And sure we will see. I look forward to seeing how Joshua does vs the likes of Bermane & Joseph this year ideally. Then probably in the 2nd half of 2017 we can really get ready to see Fury vs Joshua.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
          What does this even mean? Fury is undefeated yet are you not knocking him? Why is Joshua's undefeatedness superior to Fury's undefeatedness? Also of course I or you or anyone can knock anyone. Theres no anti-being critical rules on NSB.



          Bro thats exactly what I said. What I'm getting at is I just don't think he was musclebound enough where his body wasn't as inefficient late in fights as I'd argue Tyson, Bruno & Joshua were/will be.

          I just think there is a critical mass of muscle that is counterproductive to a sport like boxing when you get deeper into a fight that is pretty much exclusive to the HW division. Early on in a fight its super productive cuz that superior muscle has superior strength & you'll KO more guys like all these guys have done/been doing. Later on not so much. Those muscles require more oxygen & they will always slow you down. Its more science than speculation Joshua is gonna have this problem. I watch musclebound guys box, fight MMA, kickbox, grapple, compete in Bjj & they always got inferior cardio that can catch up with them in longer fights. Comes with the territory.



          Alrite Freddie Roach. Also this is a sign of a ******** addiction or fanboy-ism lol. All I know if you are extremely underrating Fury for whatever reason.



          Haye for sure has a chance. I've seen some amateur fights where Joshua's chin has seemed... more susceptible lets say & Haye has power. Anyone with power has a chance vs Joshua. Whyte showed that. Based off of that Whyte fight I suspected Martin could make things interesting too, but he wasn't willing to take any chances like Whyte was so things didn't work out well for him.



          Between this & the house bet you sound borderline nuts brother lol. Everyone is wrong about fighters sometimes. If you aren't you must be new to boxing or something.



          Lotsa guys are tough guys to beat for awhile. Alot of fighters who become top 5 tend to be in fact I'd argue. Its not that foreign a concept for a elite level guy to be hard to beat. And lets not act like Joshua has done anything to suggest he's gonna be THAT tough to beat. A unproven prospect gave him some tense moments. If that is the case what happens when he's in there with a legit contender who's giving him tense moments? I can't confidently say he comes out on top & I don't see how anyone could without question say he does.

          And sure we will see. I look forward to seeing how Joshua does vs the likes of Bermane & Joseph this year ideally. Then probably in the 2nd half of 2017 we can really get ready to see Fury vs Joshua.
          The first sentence is untill Joshua loses to another fighter then it's hindsight.....and I'm not diminishing fury's unbeaten record to Joshua's ....I'm just stating to me I see a more dominant style with Anthony Joshua than I do with Tyson fury...its opinions bro...yours differ from mine that's it...u fancy fury over Joshua and I see it the other way around..its debating...you state you thought Martin would have done better if he took more chances yet he was blown out with Joshua even stepping up a gear...now if Joshua does the same to Parker or stiverne what you gonna say then.....as for me trying to convince u that I'm not wrong about fighters....of course I can be wrong and taking every sentence I say as gospel is naive ....ok let me put it another way...Joshua has still to be tested for sure and if he gets taken to the deep end and then gets beaten by a top 5 fighter then I will say I was wrong and say fair play....on the other hand if Joshua carries on walking through fighters like there nothing then I expect you to say yeah he is the real deal.....as I said we will see...it won't be long before one of us is proven wrong..remember this though Joshua is not the one trying to down grade other fighters achievements ...that's fury's game and seeing how Tyson fury has blown up to over 24 stone and totally out of shape...don't bank he even manages to beat klitchcko in a rematch...u make it sound that fury has a resume to rival Lennox Lewis lol.....chisora, hammer and Cunningham couldn't beat Joshua if all three of them faced him one after another in the ring...as for klitchcko he is 40 years of age and was to use to fighting smaller fighters he could lean on and d**** all over...we will see when it happens....my pick is Joshua and yours in fury don't forget it

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
            Of course talk is cheap. I remember talking to guys like you back when Klitschko was still champion & I was saying the same thing doe, hell I was saying Fury would be a title holder for years. I understand it. Joshua gots power & power KTFO of people. Its impressive. Its awe inspiring. Its also overrated. Its also the main attribute & arguably the only one he has. I don't think Joshua sucks or that he has zero chance vs Fury or obviously anyone else, just power in the HW division can definitely take you further than in most other divisions, but I think people are assigning him superpowers over his performances over journeymen & prospects. Lets see him fight some legit top ten caliber contenders. Lets see him take those buzzing shots a domestic prospect like Whyte landed from a more experienced, been there done that level guy.

            Plunger is a casual fan, he won't understand much of that.

            Did he drop the names of half-a-dozen great fighters to give you the impression that he has a clue..... like he does to everyone else ?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by - Ram Raid - View Post
              The misquote is quite startling, particularly with it as I said, following a critism of racism. I wouldn't argue that there isn't a problem with domestic violence within the traveller community. Wherever you find a culture with hyper-masculine ideals you tend to find problems with violence towards women. I'm from a working class background and other than my fiancé I'd be hard pressed to find a female in my family that hasn't been assaulted by their partner.

              By attributing that quote to Fury it exceptionalises domestic violence as if it's a problem confined to certain backgrounds and not a widespread issue. You can see by the comments on here that travellers recieve a lot of stick. The media have just inflamed that by making up a quote that can be used to beat them with.

              There was another horrible misquote just a couple of days ago.

              Something Mayweather said.

              It was just as bad.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                Yeah but that's hindsight and till the day he does come up against a fighter who can outbox him then you can't knock him....we can clearly see that joshua is a quick combination puncher and all you have to do is go back watch the fights with Skelton, Kevin Johnson or Michael sprott to see what kind of hand speed he has when unloading.....now you compare Bruno lol....well listen I have seen Bruno fight in the flesh 3 times and the last time was when he alot to lennox Lewis in Cardiff so I have a first hand opinion..Bruno was a one punch pony and if you think joshua has any comparison to him you will be totally wrong....as the Martin fight drew closer a lot of posters on here said it could go either way or joshua would lose and looked what happened...he didn't even break sweat and eased past him.....with regards to norton at that time he was considered a Hercules and Adonis with his perfect physique...so your wrong there...it's just that the fighters have gotten bigger that's it ....now I'm telling you straight up.....tyson fury will not beat joshua and I will stake my house on it....haye has more chance of beating joshua because he has explosive power and has impeccable timing...the way fury boxed klitchcko will not cut it with joshua because he will throw punches and walk through what fury has to throw....Mark my words...I'm not wrong about fighters and I'm telling joshua if he continues the way he is will be top of the division and will be a tough fighter to beat.....u can have fury and I'll have joshua and let's see who rules the roost...untill they fight we can debate all we want

                You wouldn't know a good fighter if he punched you in the face LMAO

                You picked Pacquiao to beat Mayweather, and Golovkin to beat Ward.

                You could be right about Joshua, let's wait and see..... but it is a huge call at this stage to say that he wipes the floor with Wilder and Fury.

                Keep your man-love in your pants.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  You wouldn't know a good fighter if he punched you in the face LMAO

                  You picked Pacquiao to beat Mayweather, and Golovkin to beat Ward.

                  You could be right about Joshua, let's wait and see..... but it is a huge call at this stage to say that he wipes the floor with Wilder and Fury.

                  Keep your man-love in your pants.
                  Well it's still up for debate over IV mayweather......ward vs golovkin was never discussed liar.....but I'll take kovalev over him......I'll also take canelo over Khan , Joshua over fury , Degale over Jack , brook over Garcia ....so shut it kiwi inbred

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                    Well it's still up for debate over IV mayweather......ward vs golovkin was never discussed liar.....but I'll take kovalev over him......I'll also take canelo over Khan , Joshua over fury , Degale over Jack , brook over Garcia ....so shut it kiwi inbred

                    Nothing is up for debate, pacstain.

                    You accuse Mayweather of doping, over an IV that was officially requested/approved/investigated..... and yet since Manny finally agreed to undertake random blood tests, you cannot explain to me what happened to Pac's 1200+ punch-output, and his endless stamina.

                    And yet..... somehow, it is easier for you to fly with an injury excuse, despite the fact that nothing happened during that fight to suggest that Pac was injured..... and it is easier for you to fly with an extremely weak doping allegation..... rather than face up to the REAL reasons why Pacquiao did not perform up to YOUR expectations.

                    We all told you guys that would happen 5 years ago, chump.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      Nothing is up for debate, pacstain.

                      You accuse Mayweather of doping, over an IV that was officially requested/approved/investigated..... and yet since Manny finally agreed to undertake random blood tests, you cannot explain to me what happened to Pac's 1200+ punch-output, and his endless stamina.

                      And yet..... somehow, it is easier for you to fly with an injury excuse, despite the fact that nothing happened during that fight to suggest that Pac was injured..... and it is easier for you to fly with an extremely weak doping allegation..... rather than face up to the REAL reasons why Pacquiao did not perform up to YOUR expectations.

                      We all told you guys that would happen 5 years ago, chump.
                      Shut up kiwi inbred....no ones talking to you...your avoided like small pox

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