Comments Thread For: Like it or Not - Mayweather-Pacquiao II is Back on The Radar

[fanofslug]

Did you just quote Lampley ?

Lampley will repeat whatever spin Arum tells him.

The ONLY facts on the table are..... Pac exhibited no sign of injury WHATSOEVER during that fight..... he never mentioned it once to his corner..... his corner did not work on the injury AT ALL..... Pac did not stop throwing his right hand..... Pac did not stop throwing his right hand with intent..... the injury was NOT mentioned at all during the after-fight interview..... the supposed injury/rehab did not interfere with Pac's love for basketball

Believe what you like, but I aint buying it.

You make some very compelling points, but I like Manny too much to concede. Sorry.

[travestyny]

It is funny how you can make such a comment on such a complicated injury such as a rotator cuff injury.....

yet for Floyd on something as simple as dehydration

and that we have all this data:
- Admits to making weight EASILY
- Drank up a lot after the weigh in and later drank an "ate a lot"
- Weight very stable for 30 days.
- You have a visual on him just before
- You have him doing interviews just before
- You have his vital signs - Normal
- Pre-fight form - no issues to report
- Fight night weight close to weigh in weight
- Floyd admits his natural weight is around the same as weigh in weight
- Floyd comments after IV episode that he is not drained like some other fighters and reasons why ????? What??
- Floyd tells you that he was extremely dehydrated
- Floyd tells you that it was due to the workouts
- Floyd tells you that the name of the Dr was Dr Ariza that showed him how to professionally rehydrate yourself.
- USADA, WADA, NSAC, ... all tell you to just drink up a few cups of water

yet, for Floyd, you still need to see the BS of Dr Ariza's report before you can comment.



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Why are you bringing this up in here? Got tired of being smacked around in the other location?

[Dosumpthin]

Floyd is already getting ready to:

- Call up Kenny Bayless

- Call up Dave Moretti and company

- Call up USADA and talk about their GOLD standard loopholes

- Call up NSAC to make sure they stall a while longer with their implementation of the draft on the TUE/IV changes .... for other fighter.

- Call up NSAC to make sure that the judges and ref is well "selected"

- Call up NSAC to make sure that it does not matter in how Floyd fills up the pre-fight form but to investigate anything Manny does ....

- Call up Dr Ariza to get those IV excuses ready.

- Have Dr Ariza call up Memo Heredia.

- Call up the double agent to go "spar" for Manny then report back.

Did I miss anything? ... oh, maybe some Xylocaine?

Manny listed lidocaine which is also know as xylocaine, as one of the drugs he was taking on the prefight form.


Maybe you should fact check some of the "I hate mayweather" rhetoric before you go copying and pasting it.

[SplitSecond]

Can you please confirm when this red mark shows up? Last I saw, Pacquaio was claiming that the shoulder was hurt in the 3rd round.

“From the third round I felt the pain in my shoulder. When I threw a lot of punches it hurt, so I backed off."

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/manny-pacquiao-was-planning-to-postpone-fight-over-shoulder-injury-1.2198510

There was no red mark in round 3, 4, 5, and it looks like it shows up late in round 6 when he was busy winging shots with the right with no problem. So why did it take so long for this torn rotator cuff to "bleed out"? He hurt it in the 3rd round, winged a bunch of shots with it in the 4th, fought the 5th, fought most of the 6th where he again winged a bunch of shots with it, and it doesn't show up until MAYBE at the end of the 6th?

Look at the video yourself. I added some still shots of the beginning of the 6th round where there is no visible red mark up to that point of the fight.

Hmmm.

Obviously he got the round wrong. Unless you can find where in rd 3 he throws alot of punches then backs off?

A tear gets progressively worse, I don't know why you idiots seem to think an injury will be at it's worse as soon as it occurs. And yea, the red mark clearly shows up after a flurry from Pacquiao with Mayweather against the ropes in the 6th, further proving the injury was real and he was exacerbating it.

Some of you are dumb as all hell.

[ADP02]

Why are you bringing this up in here? Got tired of being smacked around in the other location?

I see more deflections .... nothing new.


Oh, do not worry. This last week was more about Manny's fight. I will be going back there to check out what you wrote. np ... are you still waiting for Dr Ariza's TUE comments?

[ADP02]

Obviously he got the round wrong. Unless you can find where in rd 3 he throws alot of punches then backs off?

A tear gets progressively worse, I don't know why you idiots seem to think an injury will be at it's worse as soon as it occurs. And yea, the red mark clearly shows up after a flurry from Pacquiao with Mayweather against the ropes in the 6th, further proving the injury was real and he was exacerbating it.

Some of you are dumb as all hell.

Thinking the same (wrong round) because when he said that, what came to mind was round 4 where he backed up.

I didn't read what was on the link but I remember them asking Manny why he backed up .... and he said it was due to the injury not whatever they thought was the reason why.

Also true on your comment about the injury itself. The pain, the inflammation, and so on will just get worse the more Manny moves his shoulder. It's common sense stuff. Plus, the injury happened inside the body.

[Zaroku]

It is funny how you can make such a comment on such a complicated injury such as a rotator cuff injury.....

yet for Floyd on something as simple as dehydration

and that we have all this data:
- Admits to making weight EASILY
- Drank up a lot after the weigh in and later drank an "ate a lot"
- Weight very stable for 30 days.
- You have a visual on him just before
- You have him doing interviews just before
- You have his vital signs - Normal
- Pre-fight form - no issues to report
- Fight night weight close to weigh in weight
- Floyd admits his natural weight is around the same as weigh in weight
- Floyd comments after IV episode that he is not drained like some other fighters and reasons why ????? What??
- Floyd tells you that he was extremely dehydrated
- Floyd tells you that it was due to the workouts
- Floyd tells you that the name of the Dr was Dr Ariza that showed him how to professionally rehydrate yourself.
- USADA, WADA, NSAC, ... all tell you to just drink up a few cups of water

yet, for Floyd, you still need to see the BS of Dr Ariza's report before you can comment.



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You seem to be a pure t@rd.. Are you?? Personally I want to see Floyd KTFO like PAC. He cheats, like PAC and others, and I want to see him KTFO. Very clear agenda..... Your agenda is unclear.... LGBT unclear...

[ADP02]

Manny listed lidocaine which is also know as xylocaine, as one of the drugs he was taking on the prefight form.


Maybe you should fact check some of the "I hate mayweather" rhetoric before you go copying and pasting it.

You are allowed to use it in training camp, as Manny did but you are not allowed to use it before stepping into the ring, like Floyd has done. Floyd admitted in the past that he would use it just before the fight.

[travestyny]

Obviously he got the round wrong. Unless you can find where in rd 3 he throws alot of punches then backs off?

A tear gets progressively worse, I don't know why you idiots seem to think an injury will be at it's worse as soon as it occurs. And yea, the red mark clearly shows up after a flurry from Pacquiao with Mayweather against the ropes in the 6th, further proving the injury was real and he was exacerbating it.

Some of you are dumb as all hell.

1. There is a reason he doesn't know which round he hurt the shoulder in.

2. When the red mark shows up, he never stopped throwing the right. AT ALL. Through the entire fight.

3. "In acute rotator cuff injury,the symptoms appear suddenly. The shoulder joint is extremely painful. Shooting pain radiates to the back and towards the elbow. The patient is not able to move his arm due to pain and spasm of the rotator cuff muscles. There may be internal bleeding and formation of hematoma in the shoulder joint. If the tear is large, patient is unable to lift the injured arm due to loss of muscle power and pain."

http://www.tandurust.com/bone-joint-muscle-disorders/rotator-cuff-injury-causes-healing.html

Did any of that happen?

Anything else, idiot?

[travestyny]

I see more deflections .... nothing new.


Oh, do not worry. This last week was more about Manny's fight. I will be going back there to check out what you wrote. np ... are you still waiting for Dr Ariza's TUE comments?

Don't ever mention deflections again when you bring up everyone and their mother to try to prove something you can't prove.

I've been giving you information directly from WADA. How can that be a deflection?

By the way, are you going to fess up about the meaning of the word "or"? When you head back over to that thread, you should begin there.