Carl "The Jackal" Frampton vs. "El Terremoto" Leo Santa Cruz & Undercards RbR

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  • 123tyson123
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    #131
    And I do believe he was drained at the weight for his last fight against quigg which is why he struggled in the second half

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    • PivotandRoll
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      #132
      Originally posted by chris232
      yeah lets hope its a good fight, i'll be cheering on frampton anyway
      That's the priority! Think Frampton can make a statement here. I see flashes of Manny-Margs rather than Cotto-Margs.....Not long left now though.

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        #133
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        • SouthPawHitman
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          #134
          Originally posted by bigjavi973
          Thank you. I voted. Will green k when I can.

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          • kiaba360
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            #135
            I'm picking Frampton, even-though I originally felt like LSC would win by decision. The X factor is Frampton's endurance/stamina. If he has the ability to fight 12 hard rounds, this will be a great fight. If he tires before round 6, then he's probably getting stopped.
            Last edited by kiaba360; 07-30-2016, 12:57 PM.

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            • Jewish-Reptile
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              #136
              Frampton, wide decision. Cruz has awful footwork, his power is overrated too. Anyone picking Cruz on the back of the Kiko and Mares wins didn't watch the fights as an analyst, Cruz was tagged easily his winging shots leave him wide open. Frampton will expose all his flaws with ease, their really is a huge difference in class.

              Cruz is nothing more than a more open defensive Quigg, in fact I hold Quigg in higher regard. The Kiko win for Cruz was over a completely shot Kiko, that win means nothing yet many are convinced it was a big win for Cruz

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                #137
                Originally posted by b0x
                Yep. Agree with all of this. Hoping carl has better stamina at this weight, he looked drained in his last few. His upper body looks significantly bigger and he looks to be hitting with some serious power, that's why I've gone for the KO. LSC doesn't use his reach advantage all that well as he always meets in the middle for some toe to toe, reminds me of a glorified Rios. Let's not forget Kiko put LSC down, and Kiko's best days are long gone...
                Yknow I completely forgot he put him down. Cruz isn't as poor as Rios, he just isn't that great either though. I like Cruz I really do, I believe in boxing their are levels though and I'm of the opinion Selby and Russell likely beat Frampton, I'm not really a fan of either those guys I do rate Frampton highly those guys are just a level above though.

                Quigg and Cruz are the same size and reach, Quigg is a more defensive fighter though and Frampton eased past him. I have concerns for Frampton after that late slouch versus Quigg, let's not forget he was in a hostile environment and the crowd he fought were a partisan Manchester crowd vociferous in support of Quigg's punches thrown landed and missed. Frampton will have benefited hugely from that, I take huge heart from the fact this is in NY, his support will be more vocal than the Mexican fan base imo, especially when the fight goes the course I expect, I wouldn't rule out a stoppage for Frampton yet, Cruz may fold.

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                • jmrf4435
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                  #138
                  I think Frampton is going to shock everybody and win a relatively easy KO

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                  • BamaSlamma
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                    #139
                    LSC by UD.
                    Last edited by BamaSlamma; 07-30-2016, 02:21 PM.

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                    • FrankieClutch
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by kiaba360
                      LSC likes the mid-range and enjoys combination punching. LSC will do what he always does: punches in bunches with a decent jab and nice body-work. It's up to Frampton to make LSC think twice.

                      Do you remember Douglas/Khurtsidze? It's possible that Frampton can turn LSC's reach advantage into a disadvantage if he applies the right strategy.
                      Generally, LSC does like the mid range, but he fought Mares from that sniper distance and boxed behind that jab and it showed me he can do it beautifully. Frampton will have his chances for sure. Can't wait for tonight

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