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  • VatoMulatto
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    Pro boxers in the Olympics....would they dominate??

    Amateur boxing and professional boxing are two different things. Amateur boxing is based off of points and punches landed, no matter of how hard or effective those punches are. In pro boxing you can clearly lose the round but if you land 3-4 big shots, you can actually steal the round, something like that wouldn't happen in amateur boxing. Amateur styles and pro styles are different. Most of these amateur boxers that makes it to the Olympics are highly skilled boxers and are used to the amateur system, a system the pro (with amateur record) left a long time ago.

    Pro boxers have a lot to lose because generally speaking people around the world will take for granted that the pro boxers will easily win. Imagine Pac being schooled by some unknown Cuban or Russian. That wouldn't be a good look.
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    Would you put your kid in vs Pac for all the marbles? The amateur system may be different but Pac is used to fighting the best fighters on the planet who have MONTHS to prepare exclusively for him... In terms of experience, amateurs generally don't have the class of a top fighter. Most haven't even developed completely as fighters offensively or defensively. Pac would absolutely HURT someone. It's actually quite worrying in that sense. Imagine Tommy Hearns squaring up against your teen son lmao. You wouldn't put your jrotc kids in the middle of a battlefield vs SEALS. Pac is an elite fighter. Pac isn't some local level talent... Not everyone is Rigo or Loma and even then look what happened with Loma vs Salido. It isn't the same but the good pros amare generally better at landing shots than amateurs... Imagine some kid who's at best the best in his country in that weight class (maybe not even that good in many cases when you consider them vs the best in world) vs Kovalev. The pro fighters tend to be bigger and stronger than their very young and in some cases stilldeveloping amateurs. In a way I like that pro fighters can be in the olympics but I dont know if its right or a good idea... I think there should be some sense of morality from the upper echelon fighters who have an astronimical advantage in preparation and experience. I think it might be best in terms of fairness for them not to be able to compete because I can't imagine when I used to compete having to face a GGG for free.... As a fan though it'd be cool to see Pacquiao fight period or some of the other pros but I dunno... If I was a trainer or a parent and had a good 17, 18 year old kid and they tell me to put him into a tournament with Adonis and Kovalev I wouldn't allow him to enter.
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    • Larry the boss
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      Pro boxers are accustom to landing fight changing shots..the points would not really matter

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        I don't think they'll be as dominant as people are worried about bc the olympians are gonna be fresher and hungrier not to mention they're more obviously more intuned to the rules and flow of amateur boxing.

        That being said you can expect to see a lot of them getting hurt badly by fighters that come for the kill and aren't gonna be afraid of taking hits from opponents in amateur gloves

        If I had a kid who could end up fighting Pacquiao or Klitschko in the Olympics I'd be pissed
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          Originally posted by NearHypnos
          Would you put your kid in vs Pac for all the marbles? The amateur system may be different but Pac is used to fighting the best fighters on the planet who have MONTHS to prepare exclusively for him... In terms of experience, amateurs generally don't have the class of a top fighter. Most haven't even developed completely as fighters offensively or defensively. Pac would absolutely HURT someone. It's actually quite worrying in that sense. Imagine Tommy Hearns squaring up against your teen son lmao. You wouldn't put your jrotc kids in the middle of a battlefield vs SEALS. Pac is an elite fighter. Pac isn't some local level talent... Not everyone is Rigo or Loma and even then look what happened with Loma vs Salido. It isn't the same but the good pros amare generally better at landing shots than amateurs... Imagine some kid who's at best the best in his country in that weight class (maybe not even that good in many cases when you consider them vs the best in world) vs Kovalev. The pro fighters tend to be bigger and stronger than their very young and in some cases stilldeveloping amateurs.

          I think you underestimate how good the top amateurs are from around the world. Pro fighters aren't active enough each round to keep up with the work-rate of top amateurs. There are amateur fighters all around the world who train specifically only for the amateurs and aren't thinking about turning pro. Look at Artur Beterbiev, he didn't turn pro until he was 28 and is ranked top 10 in the light heavy division right now. He wasn't even the top amateur in his divisions.

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            Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop
            I think you underestimate how good the top amateurs are from around the world. Pro fighters aren't active enough each round to keep up with the work-rate of top amateurs. There are amateur fighters all around the world who train specifically only for the amateurs and aren't thinking about turning pro. Look at Artur Beterbiev, he didn't turn pro until he was 28 and is ranked top 10 in the light heavy division right now. He wasn't even the top amateur in his divisions.
            There are some exceptions but you're talking about a couple of rounds compared to 12 rounds


            Imagine the ferocity from GGG or Pac if they had to only fight 1/3 of the total time against someone with vastly less experience than them. There is no doubt a lot of talent in the upper tier of amateur boxing but they havent had 20 years to hone their craft and half of that with a world reknown trainer. And Beterbiev was a very good amateur from what I recall.

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              I can't imagine how they wouldn't. They would be more skilled, have more stamina, they're more experienced, and the rules are being changed towards a more pro-style scoring. They can overwhelm 99% of the fighters they would face. Even the few amateurs with world class potential would have never experienced something like a world class professional and wouldn't know what to do about it. The average top 10 fighter faces tougher competition than any amateur could ever dream of on the amateur level.
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                Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop
                I think you underestimate how good the top amateurs are from around the world. Pro fighters aren't active enough each round to keep up with the work-rate of top amateurs. There are amateur fighters all around the world who train specifically only for the amateurs and aren't thinking about turning pro. Look at Artur Beterbiev, he didn't turn pro until he was 28 and is ranked top 10 in the light heavy division right now. He wasn't even the top amateur in his divisions.
                Low-activity pros are usually low activity because of stamina issues over 12 rounds. They wouldn't have to worry about that in amateur style fights.

                Beterbiev is still looking vulnerable against journeymen pros. Imagine how he would look against a top 10 fighter without any of the experience he has gained as a professional? He wouldn't know what to do. Throw Beterbiev coming out of the amateurs into the ring with someone like Kovalev or Stevenson and he would be destroyed.

                That's the scenario we're talking about here.

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                  Put it this way. Vasyl Lomachenko, arguably the best amateur fighter ever, struggled with a past prime Orlando Salido. Look at situations with Ward getting dropped by Boone, Kovalev fighting Boone to a draw, Khan getting washed by Prescott, Rigo struggling with Cordoba, etc. Etc.

                  There's a transition period for amateur fighters to develop into professionals.

                  Here, you're going to have polished professionals fighting undeveloped amateurs.

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                  • VatoMulatto
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                    Originally posted by larrys.o.g
                    Pro boxers are accustom to landing fight changing shots..the points would not really matter
                    It's not 12 rounds. We're talking about 3 or 4 rounds. A slow start and you lose. I'd love to see the pros in the Olympics because it would make the Olympic boxing even more interesting. I have a feeling that many of the pros will fail big time.

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