Cotto vs Lara at 154

[Beercules]

Cotto's main problem against Trout was that he was facing someone who was fresh, healthy and pretty good, as opposed to a cripple, a cyclopse, a drained Sheila beater and a one-legged ***.

[b00g13man]

I just answered the question. I'm not one to make excuses for Cotto. He lost and I wasn't surprised about that because of the points I've made.

The "points" you made are exactly what excuses are.

[SunSpace]

According to Freddie Roach, Cotto was having a LOT of problems with Diaz. In other words, Cotto was once again training himself, except in a new location. Ironically, even the time placement was wrong, because you're supposed to train at altitude last. Cotto's camp did it the other way around, which I imagine nullifies the effects. Add that to a lot of disappointment over the Mayweather fight outcome plus a probable failure to "get up" for the Trout fight (Trout was unknown back then), and you have a MESS of a camp. Practically everyone thought he was done after that fight, purely out of his performance. It was a competitive match, but he just wasn't the same.

Cotto proved that he had a lot left, when he joined up with Roach. He still does. And, frankly, most people, experts included, would pick Cotto to win a Trout rematch. That's saying something. Even Dan Rafael made that clear.

It's no mystery what happened in the Trout fight, and that's why I'm always surprised when people bring it up. Frankly, I can't tell whether they're trolling, or if they truly just don't know. It's not an accurate measure of Cotto's effectiveness against boxers. Did you see what Cotto did versus Mayweather? Mayweather's a superior boxer to Trout. And there are many other examples in Cotto's career. I mean, it's fine if people are new to boxing and just don't know, but the evidence is there for us to view, so to speak.

[NapalmKnuckles]

According to Freddie Roach, Cotto was having a LOT of problems with Diaz. In other words, Cotto was once again training himself, except in a new location. Ironically, even the time placement was wrong, because you're supposed to train at altitude last. Cotto's camp did it the other way around, which I imagine nullifies the effects. Add that to a lot of disappointment over the Mayweather fight outcome plus a probable failure to "get up" for the Trout fight (Trout was unknown back then), and you have a MESS of a camp. Practically everyone thought he was done after that fight, purely out of his performance. It was a competitive match, but he just wasn't the same.

Cotto proved that he had a lot left, when he joined up with Roach. He still does. And, frankly, most people, experts included, would pick Cotto to win a Trout rematch. That's saying something. Even Dan Rafael made that clear.

It's no mystery what happened in the Trout fight, and that's why I'm always surprised when people bring it up. Frankly, I can't tell whether they're trolling, or if they truly just don't know. It's not an accurate measure of Cotto's effectiveness against boxers. Did you see what Cotto did versus Mayweather? Mayweather's a superior boxer to Trout. And there are many other examples in Cotto's career. I mean, it's fine if people are new to boxing and just don't know, but the evidence is there for us to view, so to speak.

He was with Diaz in the Mayweather fight too tho. A lot of fighters have problems in camp, you can't disregard a loss because you feel he wasn't 100%, if that's the case the Sergio Martinez fight shouldn't count.

[KillaMane26]

Cotto ain't winning more than 4rounds

[gmc_rfc_06]

Lara takes Miguel apart.

Bigger, faster, more skilled and just a better fighter all around.

[Raonic]

There's no demand for this fight. Haymon and Jay Z also won't work together.

[SeekDaGreat]

Cotto would beat Lara within an inch of his life. Those shots he landed on Sergio, and Canelo, would knock pillow soft Lara the **** out.

It would look like this:

[SunSpace]

He was with Diaz in the Mayweather fight too tho. A lot of fighters have problems in camp, you can't disregard a loss because you feel he wasn't 100%, if that's the case the Sergio Martinez fight shouldn't count.

It's not about what I "feel," it's about what I see. Anyone can see that the Cotto in that fight was nowhere near the Cotto of practically ANY other fight in his career. And yes, Cotto did have Diaz for the Mayweather fight, but that doesn't mean that Cotto was having major issues with Diaz back then. There is a difference between a decent training camp and one loaded with issues/drama. In other words, the Diaz camp Cotto had for the Mayweather fight was not the same quality as the one for Trout.

Personally, I didn't think Diaz was a good fit for Cotto anyway, but I can't claim that Cotto was training himself even for the Mayweather fight. If that were the case, wouldn't Cotto have fired him? Losing wasn't the reason Diaz was fired ultimately, because Cotto, technically speaking, lost the Mayweather fight by a wide unanimous decision. He could've done it then.

If Roach says Cotto was having major issues throughout the Trout camp, and my own eyes SEE that's not the Cotto I know, then I can come to the conclusion that Roach is probably telling the truth.

[lopetego]

It's not about what I "feel," it's about what I see. Anyone can see that the Cotto in that fight was nowhere near the Cotto of practically ANY other fight in his career. And yes, Cotto did have Diaz for the Mayweather fight, but that doesn't mean that Cotto was having major issues with Diaz back then. There is a difference between a decent training camp and one loaded with issues/drama. In other words, the Diaz camp Cotto had for the Mayweather fight was not the same quality as the one for Trout.

Personally, I didn't think Diaz was a good fit for Cotto anyway, but I can't claim that Cotto was training himself even for the Mayweather fight. If that were the case, wouldn't Cotto have fired him? Losing wasn't the reason Diaz was fired ultimately, because Cotto, technically speaking, lost the Mayweather fight by a wide unanimous decision. He could've done it then.

If Roach says Cotto was having major issues throughout the Trout camp, and my own eyes SEE that's not the Cotto I know, then I can come to the conclusion that Roach is probably telling the truth.

I dont know about all the camp shenanigans, but Cotto's stamina looked awful in the Trout match, as in worst ever. He also didn't seem to have a plan to deal with Trout's reach and height, he looked lost and befundled there.

I'm inclined to think that he underestimated Trout and didn't prepare well, remember, Trout was a nobody back then, he was supposed to be an easy, stay busy match for Cotto because a match with Canelo was already in the works.

Im not exactly a fan of Cotto but I have to admit the version that fought Canelo and Geale totally ****s on the version that fought Trout, at least on physical condition alone.