Comments Thread For: Arum: Chavez Jr - One of My Biggest Disappointments as Promoter

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  • _Maxi
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    #11
    Originally posted by super-x
    Bob previously stated that Jnr wasnt really that talented and that his biggest asset was his ability to get down to 160 and then blow up to get such a huge size/weight/strength advantage over his opponents by the time they entered the ring giving him the ability to wear and break smaller fighters down... except when he got totally outclassed by martinez for 11 rounds, and then battered by Fonfara Who would give any light heavy nightmares.
    You talking about Jr or about Canelo? hehe...

    I said it before. Lets go back to same day weigh in to make it more difficult for the weight drainers.

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    • The Problem Child
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      #12
      I think we all feel this way about Jr to some extent. However, given that he was born wealthy, that he really didn't have the need or natural hunger to fight out of a bad situation, he has accomplished quite a bit. He was world champion and in the biggest fight of his life against Martinez, he almost scored a historic KO.

      He has a very decent record/resume too.

      And that makes you wonder what he could have accomplished and how great he could have become had he taken this sport seriously. His father genes cannot be denied, Jr inherited the fighting ability of his father.

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      • TheCell8
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        #13
        Originally posted by Rudiamonds
        How much did arum sell Chavez for? Seem like it worked out for him
        Haymon wasted $1M on him, reportedly.

        Chavez Jr. has since been robbing Showtime. Taking a lot money and producing poor ratings.

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        • AddiX
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          #14
          Haymon spent a lot of $ and time to build up Chavez.

          People forget, Chavez didn't have much amateur experience, he was god awful when he went pro. His father was broke and pimped his son out. Arum got them back on there feet.

          He invested his own money to do low key ppvs for Chavez for years. They weren't making $ off these. But arum did it to build his name up, keep him active, and put $ in his pocket.

          Chavez never cared though. Always did what he wanted, took advantage of everyone, especially he fans.

          Left 2 career high paydays on the table to join Al Haymon and watch his career hit plummet. Haymon was never going to care about Chavez's career the way Arum did.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #15
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            You talking about Jr or about Canelo? hehe...

            I said it before. Lets go back to same day weigh in to make it more difficult for the weight drainers.
            You do realize about 95% of all boxers do this? The only ones off the top of my head that don't are Mayweather and GGG

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            • Shadoww702
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              #16
              Originally posted by Golovkin
              I think we all feel this way about Jr to some extent. However, given that he was born wealthy, that he really didn't have the need or natural hunger to fight out of a bad situation, he has accomplished quite a bit. He was world champion and in the biggest fight of his life against Martinez, he almost scored a historic KO.

              He has a very decent record/resume too.

              And that makes you wonder what he could have accomplished and how great he could have become had he taken this sport seriously. His father genes cannot be denied, Jr inherited the fighting ability of his father.
              He KO'd and abused Andy Lee who everyone thinks is done great MW.

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              • Shadoww702
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                #17
                Chavez Jr. Has skills. He just doesn't have the discipline or anyone to tell him know.bsht Roach trained him in his living room after moving around furniture

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                • just the facts
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  Chavez Jr. Has skills. He just doesn't have the discipline or anyone to tell him know.bsht Roach trained him in his living room after moving around furniture
                  Skills????? Hardly, no jab, sloppy footwork and no semblance of even basic defense. All Jr brought to the table was a decent punch and a good chin.

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                  • HanzGruber
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AddiX
                    Haymon spent a lot of $ and time to build up Chavez.

                    People forget, Chavez didn't have much amateur experience, he was god awful when he went pro. His father was broke and pimped his son out. Arum got them back on there feet.

                    He invested his own money to do low key ppvs for Chavez for years. They weren't making $ off these. But arum did it to build his name up, keep him active, and put $ in his pocket.

                    Chavez never cared though. Always did what he wanted, took advantage of everyone, especially he fans.

                    Left 2 career high paydays on the table to join Al Haymon and watch his career hit plummet. Haymon was never going to care about Chavez's career the way Arum did.
                    was wondering if you would come in here with this bullshlt lol

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                    • AddiX
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by CatchweightKing
                      was wondering if you would come in here with this bullshlt lol
                      Got to keep the truth alive.

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