Was floyd dehydrated? Does it matter???

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #11
    Originally posted by ADP02
    Maybe he just has the munchies, if you know what I mean ....
    Team USA!!

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    • GTTofAK
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dosumpthin
      Summary : You probably can get a retroactive tue to rehydrate intravenously for something as simple as a lifstyle choice as long as you notify the ADO prior to the sample.
      And you long diatribe ignores that a retroactive TUE must not only qualify under the extra rules for a retroactive TUE but must also comply with the standard TUE rules.

      4.1 An Athlete may be granted a TUE if (and only if) he/she can show that each of the following conditions is met:
      Notice that this is not an OR. This is a logical AND. All the following conditions must be met for a TUE to be granted


      a. The Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method in question is needed to treat an acute or chronic medical condition, such that the Athlete would experience a significant impairment to health if the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method were to be withheld.

      b. The The****utic Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is highly unlikely to produce any additional enhancement of performance beyond what might be anticipated by a return to the Athlete’s normal state of health following the treatment of the acute or chronic medical condition.

      c.There is no reasonable The****utic alternative to the Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method.

      d.The necessity for the Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is not a consequence, wholly or in part, of the prior Use(without a TUE) of a substance or method which was prohibited at the time of such Use.
      Take a good hard look at C, no reasonable the****utic alternative. Nothing in the medial literature specific relevant to this specific case shows that Froid couldn't have simply drunk water which is the preferred method of re-hydration for mild to moderate dehydration.
      Last edited by GTTofAK; 03-29-2016, 02:51 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by GTTofAK
        And you long diatribe ignores that a retroactive TUE must not only qualify under the extra rules for a retroactive TUE but must also comply with the standard TUE rules.
        You talk too much brah! Can't you see Conte is filliing in some tricks for USADA so that Phelps can steal another 6 Gold Medals for a whopping 24 in total. That's just Gold 2 doe!








        Still the world-record holder for the 100m butterfly (49.82 seconds), 200m butterfly (1:51.51), 400m individual medley (4:03.84) and the 4x100m (3:08.24) and 4x200m freestyle (6:58.55) relays, the greatest swimmer of them all has set himself one final challenge at Rio 2016.

        “I’m 30 years old and swimming almost faster than I ever have before,” he warned, letting everyone know that he is hungry to add to his record tally of Olympic titles and medals.

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        • GTTofAK
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          #14
          Lets just remove boxing from the equation and see that USADA has to say about IV when Froid isn't paying them to look the other way. This is what they told fighters in the UFC about IV rehydration.

          ARE IVs BETTER THAN ORAL REHYDRATION FOR PERFORMANCE?

          •Convincing research to support IV fluid administration prior to competition for performance enhancement, rehydration, dehydration prevention, or muscle cramp prevention does not exist.

          •Current studies do not support the use of IV fluids for rehydration when an athlete can tolerate oral fluids.

          •American College of Sports Medicine consensus guidelines state, “IV fluids do not provide an advantage over drinking oral fluids and electrolytes.”

          •IV infusions before sample collection could actually prolong the doping control sample process because it has a greater potential to produce multiple dilute sample


          How does this square with what USADA said about Froid? It doesn't. USADA published this 2 months before Hauser's article. USADA is corrupt as **** and does whatever the person or group paying them wants. Froid wants the illusion of testing Froid gets the illusion of testing. Dana White wants UFC cleaned up USADA will clean up UFC.

          USADA is the best compliance organization money can buy.
          Last edited by GTTofAK; 03-29-2016, 02:52 PM.

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          • GTTofAK
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            #15
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
            You talk too much brah!
            And you gave up brah.

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              #16
              Originally posted by GTTofAK
              And you gave up brah.
              Gave up what?

              USADA, Rio, and Phelps bout to do it again! As Conte said, ''there are champions that are clean!''

              Don't feel sad nobody is talking about Hauser's dumbass articles anymore brah!

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                #17
                Originally posted by GTTofAK
                Lets just remove boxing from the equation and see that USADA has to say about IV when Froid isn't paying them to look the other way. This is what they told fighters in the UFC about IV rehydration.




                How does this square with what USADA said about Froid? It doesn't. USADA published this 2 months before Hauser's article. USADA is corrupt as **** and does whatever the person or group paying them wants. Froid wants the illusion of testing Froid gets the illusion of testing. Dana White wants UFC cleaned up USADA will clean up UFC.

                USADA is the best compliance organization money can buy.

                Yup .... I remember one athlete responding to a question on this topic.

                The guy was asked about IVs for rehydration purposes after a weigh in. The athlete said that USADA had come by and told them that its not allowed.


                but then again, the guy never was in a contract where USADA was going to receive $150K for just one fight.

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                • Dosumpthin
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GTTofAK
                  And you long diatribe ignores that a retroactive TUE must not only qualify under the extra rules for a retroactive TUE but must also comply with the standard TUE rules.
                  The retroactive tue criteria has to do with the timing of when the tue application was submitted - not the criteria for tue itself.

                  Agreed. Didn't think I had to explain this but thanks for pointing that out.


                  Notice that this is not an OR. This is a logical AND. All the following conditions must be met for a TUE to be granted




                  Take a good hard look at C, no reasonable the****utic alternative. Nothing in the medial literature specific relevant to this specific case shows that Froid couldn't have simply drunk water which is the preferred method of re-hydration for mild to moderate dehydration.
                  Yes. That is the criteria for obtaining a tue for banned substances and methods.

                  But wada knows one size doesn't fit all and provide guidlines for physicians to follow for certain medical conditions.


                  I was pointing out USADA stance about IV use......

                  "Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval. "


                  As long as you inform them in advance (PRIOR TO SAMPLE) they don't seem to have a problem with it.

                  Now if you don't inform them, then you better have a doctor's note supported by medical records.



                  Either way Floyd if use is well within the rules and WADA decision not to reverse the tue proved it.


                  Therefore the severity of dehydration doesn't matter in the long run. Now go back to slurping up your master Hauser. You missed a spot.

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                  • lopetego
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                    #19
                    All PED cheaters are bad, but IVweather is the worst of all for being such an hypocritic twat

                    now we know his whole crusade against PEDs was to achieve one goal only: to make sure that his opponents stay clean while he roids up

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                    • b00g13man
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                      #20
                      Keep this bull**** in the myriad other threads discussing it.

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