Why is there no division between LHW and Crusier?

[Szef]

They need Canelo.

[Fury4daWIN]

If a man weighing 100 lbs fought a man weighing 200 lbs he would be fighting someone 2 times his size. Whereas a man weighing 200 lbs fighting a man weighing 300 lbs would fighting someone 1.5 times his size. As you get heavier the weight becomes less relevant and that's the reason for the 'massive' gap.

If anything boxing needs LESS divisions. I know there's a lot of heavyweights nowadays but if half of them put in the proper training they would easily be able to get down to cruiserweight. You've have to be f**king huge to not be able to get below 205 lbs.

I can think of tons of heavyweights over the last decade who could have boiled down to the CW limit without killing themselves: Povetkin, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Jennings, Glazkov, Szpilka, even fatsos like Charr and Arreola. Solis and Andy Ruiz would probably be around the CW limit if they ever shed the fat as well. Unless you're built like a tank (Sam Peter, Carlos Takam) or are over six three and not a bean pole there's no reason you should be weighing in above 220 if you put the work in.

[Fury4daWIN]

Cruiserweight was originally 190 pounds and was created for guys who couldn't quite make 175 but didn't want to fight rock hard 220 pounders. At 190 it made sense. When they raised it up to 200 pounds and banned same day weigh ins it no longer made sense. Now you have cruiserweights who weigh in at 200 pounds and then weigh 220 pounds on fight night. These so called cruiserweights are full sized heavyweights just as big as Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson and the young George Foreman. Any good cruiserweight always moves up to heavyweight anyway. They aren't really moving up because they already were heavyweights. If they wanted to improve things they would drop the limit back down to 190 pounds. Any boxer who can't make 190 32 hours before the fight is a heavyweight bigger than most of the past heavyweight champs.

True. It always annoys me when people talk about "blown up cruiserweights" as though these are small men. Most cruiserweights are huge and simply stop cutting weight when they move up to heavy. When Huck fought Povetkin he weighed in at around 210-215 yet looked exactly the same as he did at Cruiserweight. Haye weighed in at around that for his first few heavyweight fights as well.

To put that in perspective, Joe Louis' career best weight was 200lbs. Frazier was 205, Evander was 205, Earnie Shavers (so-called biggest puncher ever) was 210. Foreman was around 217 and was considered a giant.

[TAZ-G]

What do you mean by Cruiser is a bit empty? Cruiserweight's a pretty deep division. Just the majority of their top fighters are unknown to American and British fans.

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this, the Cruiserweight division is full of killers.

[NEETzsche]

they could perhaps put cruiser back at 190, give heavyweight an upper limit of 225, and make everything above that "super heavy"

i definitely think a few of the "junior" and "super" division need to go too

[kiDynamite92]

I can think of tons of heavyweights over the last decade who could have boiled down to the CW limit without killing themselves: Povetkin, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Jennings, Glazkov, Szpilka, even fatsos like Charr and Arreola. Solis and Andy Ruiz would probably be around the CW limit if they ever shed the fat as well. Unless you're built like a tank (Sam Peter, Carlos Takam) or are over six three and not a bean pole there's no reason you should be weighing in above 220 if you put the work in.

When you look at it even closer, you'd be surprised at just who could make cruiserweight. Lennox Lewis at like 26 was weighing in the 220's. You would imagine he could boil down to 205 if he wanted and done it with ease in his early 20's. Wladamir Klitschko was kinda the same, Vitali use to be a stick - check out his old kick boxing videos. Honestly it would take a real freak of nature to not be able to make 205 lbs. someone like Nikolai Valuev or that 7 ft chinnese guy only really come to mind and maybe Tyson Fury.

[therealpugilist]

Seems kind of odd that we go from 175 all the way up to 200 lbs no? any reason in particular why there is not another divison in between?

its the heavyweights man...MFers keep getting bigger


back in the day heavies were sub 200 like Dempsey, Patterson, with occassional guys at the 210-220 range like Jim Jeffries, and tweeners at 200-210 like Louis


in the 60s and 70s it became common to see guys 220 and 6'3"...these gys dwarfed the champs of the past who were 5'10"-6'

now these dudes are literally the size of nba small forwards and power forwards


I dont see the need for another weight class though 175-200 is a big gap but most lightheavies are waaaaay taller and bigger than the past these guys are over 6 foot and walk around 210

[Blue Heffner]

I think boxing needs less divisions.