Why is there no division between LHW and Crusier?

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  • CaneloMaidana
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    #11
    There are 4 divisions between 105-115. I've said we should get rid of 3 of those and and a 185 division. That would make 15 divisions instead of 17. It would eliminate 8 belts.

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    • boliodogs
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      #12
      Cruiserweight was originally 190 pounds and was created for guys who couldn't quite make 175 but didn't want to fight rock hard 220 pounders. At 190 it made sense. When they raised it up to 200 pounds and banned same day weigh ins it no longer made sense. Now you have cruiserweights who weigh in at 200 pounds and then weigh 220 pounds on fight night. These so called cruiserweights are full sized heavyweights just as big as Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson and the young George Foreman. Any good cruiserweight always moves up to heavyweight anyway. They aren't really moving up because they already were heavyweights. If they wanted to improve things they would drop the limit back down to 190 pounds. Any boxer who can't make 190 32 hours before the fight is a heavyweight bigger than most of the past heavyweight champs.

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      • Sun_Tzu
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        #13
        Cruiser is a tweener division. Nothing of consequence ever happens there really or rarely does. Its a place for good smaller heavies to get a strap or two before moving to heavy. Thats how Ive always looked at it anyway.

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        • Redd Foxx
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          #14
          I think it's the same reason there aren't half-sizes in shoes once you get past size 12 (a subject I happen to be pissed off about right now, lol). There are fewer that fit in those ranges and the differences aren't as significant as they are when guys are smaller.

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          • kiDynamite92
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            #15
            If a man weighing 100 lbs fought a man weighing 200 lbs he would be fighting someone 2 times his size. Whereas a man weighing 200 lbs fighting a man weighing 300 lbs would fighting someone 1.5 times his size. As you get heavier the weight becomes less relevant and that's the reason for the 'massive' gap.

            If anything boxing needs LESS divisions. I know there's a lot of heavyweights nowadays but if half of them put in the proper training they would easily be able to get down to cruiserweight. You've have to be f**king huge to not be able to get below 205 lbs.
            Last edited by kiDynamite92; 03-29-2016, 12:58 AM.

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            • Weltschmerz
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              #16
              they should scrap some of the lower weight classes, it's already a complete joke with all the catchweight BS.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #17
                Originally posted by larrys.o.g
                Just what boxing needs...another division
                We can definitely get rid of some of them but in this particular case, I say we need this one.

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                • mick1303
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  Cruiserweight was originally 190 pounds and was created for guys who couldn't quite make 175 but didn't want to fight rock hard 220 pounders. At 190 it made sense. When they raised it up to 200 pounds and banned same day weigh ins it no longer made sense. Now you have cruiserweights who weigh in at 200 pounds and then weigh 220 pounds on fight night. These so called cruiserweights are full sized heavyweights just as big as Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson and the young George Foreman. Any good cruiserweight always moves up to heavyweight anyway. They aren't really moving up because they already were heavyweights. If they wanted to improve things they would drop the limit back down to 190 pounds. Any boxer who can't make 190 32 hours before the fight is a heavyweight bigger than most of the past heavyweight champs.
                  Very sensible post! Wanted to give green K, but I can't. Apparently I need to award someone else due to nsb rules...

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                  • Fury4daWIN
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by el***
                    Also there isnt a big push to make another division because cruiser has been a bit empty as it is and thats with a 25 pound range. If they split it in two and make a cruiser jr and regular cruiser, it will be even worse.

                    The bigger fights are at light heavy and heavy, splitting cruiser into 2 would make it worse.
                    What do you mean by Cruiser is a bit empty? Cruiserweight's a pretty deep division. Just the majority of their top fighters are unknown to American and British fans.

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                    • Fury4daWIN
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                      they should scrap some of the lower weight classes, it's already a complete joke with all the catchweight BS.
                      Agreed. We need fewer weight classes, not more.

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