What is VADA?

[AddiX]

VADA is the drug testing company that all the Haymon fighters run from.

[ИATAS]

The amount of crazy on this website is astonishing. It has gotten to the point where people literally side with what drug agency their favorite fighters use. You guys are pathetic, truly. As if being d1ckriders for promoters and/or managers wasn't bad enough smdh

[Dosumpthin]

USADA does no testing. Its a collection and control agency. USADA and VADA both use the same labs. The difference is there is no history of VADA tipping off athletes on when the piss man was coming or not reporting failed tests to the proper state authorities.

If a lab reports to VADA that a sample came back positive for clen VADA will tell the state AC. If a lab tells USADA that a sample cam back positve for clen then it all depends on what the people paying USADA want. If USADA is being paid for enforcement they will tell the state AC. If USADA is being paid for the illusion of enforcement they will continue to test the athlete until they test negative and/or it leaks to the media. If it leaks to the media they will pretend like they were going to tell the state AC the entire time and shrug their shoulders when asked 'then why didn't you tell the AC on the first positive and instead kept testing?'

We both know i dont respect your opinion becaused its based on rumors and speculation and you try to pass it off as fact.

You are on a 7 day probationary period in which :

If you are going to contribute to this thread you are required to provide links with verifiable facts from a creditable source.

[Dosumpthin]

The amount of crazy on this website is astonishing. It has gotten to the point where people literally side with what drug agency their favorite fighters use. You guys are pathetic, truly. As if being d1ckriders for promoters and/or managers wasn't bad enough smdh

Very good observation. Thats why im trying gather factual information -

How many employees does vada have?
How many wada accredited labs do they use?

[Dosumpthin]

So far what i found is

Usada = McDonalds
Vada = McDowells


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Am i missing something?

[Redd Foxx]

The thing about VADA is that they have made big PR pushes with the public to earn the trust of the fans. A lot of biased/misleading information has been disseminated and you'll see that many people here are suckered into believing that VADA is snowy white and the the model of perfection. VADA's practices and fumbling have been questioned on numerous occasions (feel free to look it up). I'm not "taking sides" by any means, only explaining that neither org is without flaw.

[Dosumpthin]

The thing about VADA is that they have made big PR pushes with the public to earn the trust of the fans. A lot of biased/misleading information has been disseminated and you'll see that many people here are suckered into believing that VADA is snowy white and the the model of perfection. VADA's practices and fumbling have been questioned on numerous occasions (feel free to look it up). I'm not "taking sides" by any means, only explaining that neither org is without flaw.

I agree - even the website looks amateurish.


But i have not heard about "fumbles" only aboutbthe three fighters that tested positive. Can you provide a link to a verifiable source?

[gee73]

I can answer this. VADA was established in 2011, perhaps influenced so that it could protect HBO fighters.. HBO's ring doctor, Margaret Goodman, was perhaps privately funded by close HBO investors in a project which later and comically enrolled Victor Conte as a consultant. Like Hauser to HBO, but VADA having an advantage because Conte looks and talks like a Chicago Irish cop wanting proper hot peppers on that Chicago polish sausage or Italian beef.

That's VADA.

Goodman was a licensed ring doctor by the NSAC. What has this to do with HBO?

Ok - so vada doesn't adhere to wadas code but closely tracks.

Does anyone know if vada uses the Adams system?

No, the ADAMS system is a WADA system and only covers athletes who are under testing of one of the national agencies.

VADA has better testing and is cheaper.

Same labs, so where is VADA better. When talking about the costs one has to consider VADA testing is partially funded, but nobody knows who is actually funding the testing. VADA didn't clarify that to this date.

USADA does no testing. Its a collection and control agency.

USADA is not actively testing (which is not quite right, but for the most part testing is done by testing companies) but they have to ensure that the labs associated with USADA (SMRTL and the Lab at UCLA) are following the WADA code. Otherwise that labs could lose their accreditation and USADA their status, as it was the case in Russia.

I agree - even the website looks amateurish.


But i have not heard about "fumbles" only aboutbthe three fighters that tested positive. Can you provide a link to a verifiable source?

Just look up the videos from Elie Seckbach when Rios was tested. Open urine containers on a table next to a ring, where sparring was done at the same time. Then there are contradicting statements to Conte's involvement with VADA and Nonito Donaire's 365/24/7 testing where he wasn't tested for peroids of four months....

[Lester Tutor]

VADA is the drug testing company that all the Haymon fighters run from.

"Participants in NBC’s new boxing series called “Premier Boxing Champions” (“PBC on NBC”) will be will be subjected to “rigorous, Olympic-style random drug testing” by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), according to Lamont Jones, vice president of operations for the series." -Lem Satterfield

[Lester Tutor]

Goodman was a licensed ring doctor by the NSAC. What has this to do with HBO?

I have heard HBO casting, could've sworn it was Jim Lampley, that has said in the past during a bout, "Our HBO ring Doctor..."

I will try and find that if I remember. Smoking a fat spliff