Comments Thread For: Mayweather To Golovkin: Beat Andre Ward, Then I'll Fight You!

[b Murphington]

I agree that it SEEMS to be unfair, that I agree.

However, FACTUALLY speaking, it isn't unfair. NSAC's official doctors were there when Floyd was 'caught' with the IV drip, and they confirmed that they evaluated him and confirmed the dehydrated state, and Floyd was hence after given 'verbal' consent to continue with the IV treatment (verbal consent is contractually binding mind you). The paper work was finalized later but the verbal consent was given and Floyd was actually evaluated by NSAC officialls.

Now the Pac story is different because Pac's story didn't add up. The todorol would not have been an issue had Pac simply filled in a simple form correctly. However, Pac indicated in the form that he had no injuries and then tried to ask for a shot 40 minutes before the fight, which is why NSAC commission called bull on the whole thing, coz it was super suspiscious.

Also, NSAC, forty minutes before the fight had no time to verify the existence of the injury and Pac couldn't even provide a doctor to support his statement, especially after already having lied on the official document.

Finally, Pac verbally lied again and said that he had not only told USADA about the injury, but had received permission from them to take the todorol during training camp.

However, USADA released a statement confirming that Pac lied about receiving permission to use todorol and that Pac never even told them about the injury. The statement said that Pac only inquired about whether various drugs and supplements were legal or not and USADA in turn confirmed whether they were or not.

So you see there was actually valid reasons for Pac being denied. If Pac had told so many lies, both verbally and on documentation, then the whole todorol thing would never have been an issue. He would have got the shot easy.

This is the reason why I don't believe that whole "injury" excuse from team Pac for a second. There was nothing to even remotely suggest there was an injury during the fight at all. No signs. No one thought he was injured. When a fighter gets injured during a fight, you see it. You can actually go back and look at the film and point out the exact time in the fight that it happens. You cannot do that here and I challenge ANYONE to show me specifically when Pac supposedly re injures his shoulder. You can't do it.

The whole thing is su****ious. More su****ious than anything Floyd has done. Also what doesn't add up is they claim this is an old injury from the De La Hoya fight. Did anyone hear about this injury at all??? After the De La Hoya fight, Pac started steamrolling his opponents. Never once had a problem with that shoulder.

But I don't necessarily blame Pac, I blame Bob. He's the puppet master, Pac's the puppet. This was all cooked up by Bob.

[JrX]

Irrelevant! You just wasted your time I didn't even read after you started talking about peds, because this thread is not about Peds but about weight, and the whole post I posted was focussed on the weight issue.

However, let me entertain you a little bit. Please tell me how a guy doing random blood testing can possibly be on peds? Floyd doesn't know when he's going to get tested because it's random, so explain to me how and why he would take peds only to flush them out as soon as he takes them? Because that is exactly what he would have to do when he is undergoing RBT. He would literally have to flush long before it took effect.

Everyone who knows about supplements and peds knows this. You have to take the **** continously over a period of time for it to be effective.

So no, of course I don't think he was on peds. He was obviously dehydrated, because the ped accusation doesn't make sense whatsoever under the conditions. Why do you think none of the other rival boxers, promoters, coaches, etc gave a **** about this **** when the news came out? Even Oscar Dela Hoe ya , Mayweather's biggest detractor didn't have nothing to say bout it. Coz everyone knew it was bull **** dumb ass.

It's obvious, Floyd was really dehydrated and took IV as a quick fix. Worst case scenario, if he wasn't dehydrated, is that he wanted to use the IV to gain a weight advantage on Pacquiao, which he failed at because Pacquiao still outweighed him by 3lbs.

However, wouldn't the fact that he only weighed 149lbs on fight night support the statement that he really was dehydrated?

You can't have it both ways buddy. You can't say he wasn't dehydrated, because if you do, then you have to explain why he only weighed 149lbs despite taking a 750ml IV.

Biggest tool respond ive read, dont know y floyd didnt take the date from Canelo and beat danny easily

[Sledgeweather17]

I'm a top 3 Floyd fan here, anyone can confirm that.

1. Floyd is lying, he would never fight GGG.
2. Floyd has never outright said he would fight GGG at 160, so you stop making **** up.
3. You do not have to defend every single thing that Floyd says. Floyd would not fight GGG even if he beat Ward, Canelo, and Cotto. For good reason, GGG is way too big.

First of all, I never said he OUTRIGHT said he will fight him at 160, however, whenever he talks about a match-up between him and GGG, he either talks about 160 or doesn't mention weight at all.

He has however not even mentioned 154 or lower. Those my friend are irrefutable facts.

Secondly, your 'floyd will never step in the ring with GGG' statement is just plain bull****, because it is completely unsubtantiated. So I won't even entertain that. It is nothing I haven't heard before. I heard it about Pac, about Mosley, about Dela Hoya, about Canelo, Cotto, and many others. Nothing new here.

And stop pretending to be a f
Floyd fan, you're not. If you were, you wouldn't project self made fantasies like the one you just did. If you had something solid to back your claim with, I would give you props. However, the fact that you ****** it out your thumb is closet hater MO.

Even GGG's coach believes Floyd is probing to see if there is public interest in a GGG match-up, an article quoting him saying that came out recently, even GGG's coach!

But you, a so called Floyd fan gonna come here and spue that ish? Lol, shut the ****, closet hater.

[b Murphington]

As for this proposed fight, I don't believe it for a second and I didn't believe it a year ago when GGG said he would come down for it. The size difference is too much. Some fights just can't happen and this is one of them.

[Sledgeweather17]

PAC coming off of ko loss to jmm is Floyd's best win that's not good enough to be as good as srr and Duran.
GGG only wants to be as good as hagler or monzon. He can stay at 160 and take on all comers @ 160

How many KO losses was Duran coming from when SRL, Hagler, and Hearns beat him?

Yeah, shut your trap boy.

[Sledgeweather17]

This guy is ******ed lol hes trying to fight someone he fought at a bigger weight class, but he says rise 15 pounds to fight some guy who doesnt put asses in seats. Why fight ward? Lol if its not a financial proble its a who has he fought prob. Lol floyd, go throw your money at strippers, this dude says some super ******ed **** lol

You guys are very confused. You have to be a cashcow first before you pick em choose em based on financial gain.

What you think Mayweather got big paydays for Corrales, Hernandez, ManFredy, Castillo, Judah, or Baldomir?

Of course not. He didn't get **** for those fights, but they were all risky fights against top opponents. He took those risks in order to legitimise a big money fight with Oscar Dela Hoya. Those risky fights are what earned him the number one pound for pound ranking, and that ranking is what earned him the Oscar Dela Hoya sweepstakes at the time. Only after he became the cash cow was he entitled to pick and choose em based on monetary value.

GGG is not there yet. He is at the stage Mayweather was in before the Oscar fight. Mayweather moved up to welterweight and fought the guy (Zab Judah was undisputed welterweight champ) and then the guy who beat the guy (Baldomir was unbeaten in 8 years and had just beaten the undisputed welterweight Zab Judah, only reason he wasn't undisputed is coz he didn't pay the sanctioning fees for all the belts, he was however lineal and wbc champ, paid those fees).

The immediately after that he moved up AGAIN to face Oscar.

GGG wants the big payday with Mayweather but doesn't want to do the things that Mayweather had to do ro get the sweepstakes.

That's why Mayweather always makes these demands of his potential foes. He's not asking them to do anything he didn't have to do himself.

[HeroBando]

You guys are very confused. You have to be a cashcow first before you pick em choose em based on financial gain.

What you think Mayweather got big paydays for Corrales, Hernandez, ManFredy, Castillo, Judah, or Baldomir?

Of course not. He didn't get **** for those fights, but they were all risky fights against top opponents. He took those risks in order to legitimise a big money fight with Oscar Dela Hoya. Those risky fights are what earned him the number one pound for pound ranking, and that ranking is what earned him the Oscar Dela Hoya sweepstakes at the time. Only after he became the cash cow was he entitled to pick and choose em based on monetary value.

GGG is not there yet. He is at the stage Mayweather was in before the Oscar fight. Mayweather moved up to welterweight and fought the guy (Zab Judah was undisputed welterweight champ) and then the guy who beat the guy (Baldomir was unbeaten in 8 years and had just beaten the undisputed welterweight Zab Judah, only reason he wasn't undisputed is coz he didn't pay the sanctioning fees for all the belts, he was however lineal and wbc champ, paid those fees).

The immediately after that he moved up AGAIN to face Oscar.

GGG wants the big payday with Mayweather but doesn't want to do the things that Mayweather had to do ro get the sweepstakes.

That's why Mayweather always makes these demands of his potential foes. He's not asking them to do anything he didn't have to do himself.

Eh, Floyd never went up in weight to fight a 10lb bigger p4per, much less non draw B sider demanding purse parity. Oscar was both the biggest money in boxing, and well past prime, nowhere near p4p

[Sledgeweather17]

You would have to have the IQ of a dead Frog if you think Floyd who made Canelo drop BELOW Junior Middleweight would let GGG fight at Middleweight!! It takes a special kind of ****** to think that Floyd would not have a catchweight against Middleweight GGG if he already had one for a Junior Middleweight. Take Floyds balls out of your mouth.

You would also have to be a special kind of ****** or ignorant not to know the public knowledge that Canelo's team offered Floyd the fight at 150 and Floyd is actually the one that said "nah you don't have to go that far, 152 is okay'.

Lol, pretty sure Floyd would have fought him at 154 if Canelo hadn't offered 150. Floyd was accomodating enough to meet him halfway.

You also have to be a special kind of dumb ignorant mtf to forget that Canelo actually won the title he was defending at a 150 catchweight to begin with.

Yeah, now chew on your own balls dum ass.

[HeroBando]

You would also have to be a special kind of ****** or ignorant not to know the public knowledge that Canelo's team offered Floyd the fight at 150 and Floyd is actually the one that said "nah you don't have to go that far, 152 is okay'.

Lol, pretty sure Floyd would have fought him at 154 if Canelo hadn't offered 150. Floyd was accomodating enough to meet him halfway.

You also have to be a special kind of dumb ignorant mtf to forget that Canelo actually won the title he was defending at a 150 catchweight to begin with.

Yeah, now chew on your own balls dum ass.

Canelo offered 150 in 2011, when he was 21 and had a prayer of making 150, unlike in 2013

[Sledgeweather17]

His team put it out there that they'd fight everyone and implied that they were being avoided, Ward raised his hand, and Team GGG sat the **** back down. I wouldn't call it running, I'd just say they got some egg on their face for sure.

If Ward had said "Gennady Golovkin I'm calling you out. You need a fight? I'm free this fall, 50-50, send me a contract." and GGG's Team had gone "Uh uh uh ok we want the fight at 149lbs and It's a 99-1 split in GGG's favor sign the contract coward." ..... that would be running like it's the plague.

Anyway, that doesn't have anything to do with Floyd being a jackass. I defend him often, but this is absurd as him saying Manny has to leave Top Rank and sign with TMT to fight him. It would be incredibly ****** of GGG to move up to 75 then squeeze down to 55. Look what happened to Roy Jones.

Look, If Floyd wants the fight I'm all for it. But if not, he should really shut up about GGG or how he's gonna get Khan-Canelo cancelled by coming back or any of that **** that he's saying to get attention. He's retired and needs to keep his ass in the background.

Floyd has moved up and down many times for big fights He did it for Oscar, Cotto, and Canelo, then he moved back down to welterweight afterwards. Again, Floyd only asks people do to things that he himself has had to do many times to get to where he is.

He also had to take risky fights with low reward many times to get to where he was, like Corrales, Castillo, Gennaro Hernandez, Judah, and Baldomir, so why must GGG be exempted?

And no one said nothing about 175, GGG and Ward can still meet at 168, and Floyd also has never said nothing about 154/155.