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  • Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
    Let's be honest, paul. Golovkin is ultra talented, but he ran from Ward like the black plague. He deserves all the **** he gets from this point forward.
    His team put it out there that they'd fight everyone and implied that they were being avoided, Ward raised his hand, and Team GGG sat the **** back down. I wouldn't call it running, I'd just say they got some egg on their face for sure.

    If Ward had said "Gennady Golovkin I'm calling you out. You need a fight? I'm free this fall, 50-50, send me a contract." and GGG's Team had gone "Uh uh uh ok we want the fight at 149lbs and It's a 99-1 split in GGG's favor sign the contract coward." ..... that would be running like it's the plague.

    Anyway, that doesn't have anything to do with Floyd being a jackass. I defend him often, but this is absurd as him saying Manny has to leave Top Rank and sign with TMT to fight him. It would be incredibly ****** of GGG to move up to 75 then squeeze down to 55. Look what happened to Roy Jones.

    Look, If Floyd wants the fight I'm all for it. But if not, he should really shut up about GGG or how he's gonna get Khan-Canelo cancelled by coming back or any of that **** that he's saying to get attention. He's retired and needs to keep his ass in the background.

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    • Typical Floyd . Go up two weight classes then come down 3 plus extra weight drain and I'll fight you. Fawking laughable

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      • Originally posted by paulf View Post
        His team put it out there that they'd fight everyone and implied that they were being avoided, Ward raised his hand, and Team GGG sat the **** back down. I wouldn't call it running, I'd just say they got some egg on their face for sure.

        If Ward had said "Gennady Golovkin I'm calling you out. You need a fight? I'm free this fall, 50-50, send me a contract." and GGG's Team had gone "Uh uh uh ok we want the fight at 149lbs and It's a 99-1 split in GGG's favor sign the contract coward." ..... that would be running like it's the plague.

        Anyway, that doesn't have anything to do with Floyd being a jackass. I defend him often, but this is absurd as him saying Manny has to leave Top Rank and sign with TMT to fight him. It would be incredibly ****** of GGG to move up to 75 then squeeze down to 55. Look what happened to Roy Jones.

        Look, If Floyd wants the fight I'm all for it. But if not, he should really shut up about GGG or how he's gonna get Khan-Canelo cancelled by coming back or any of that **** that he's saying to get attention. He's retired and needs to keep his ass in the background.
        Honestly, Mayweather-Golovkin to me is as realistic as Klitschko-Ward. Mayweather is old and maxed out @ WW. Golovkin, despite his age, is fresh and a full-fledged MW. I mean, would I like to see the fight? Sure. Why not? But if you're gonna take it there, I'd also like to see Mayweather-Ward at 168? You know, why not? Mayweather is in the past to me. Boxing needs new guys to build new legacies. Ward-Golovkin would have been a start, but Golovkin refused. Ward-Kovalev is just as nice. I don't think Golovkin will be able to counter with anything as significant.

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          What so beating berto and PAC, jmms used goods does? Beatinggarcia would be a nice win to pad out his CV a bit more. But it won't elevate him to no 5.
          Lol, Pac his 6 losses buddy, and three of them by knockout. So even if Floyd had fought Pac in 2009, Pac would have been someone's so called used goods.

          There is no version of Pac Floyd could have fought that wasn't a loser.

          You guys are just making up lame excuses as usual, especially considering that the Marquez loss was in freakin 2011, FOUR freakin years before MayPac.

          But yawl like to act like it happened just yesterday doe because it makes you insecure little sissies feel better about yourselves.

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          • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Yes, we know how good PACs resume is. But he was coming off of loss too jmm and he is smaller than Floyd where Floyd had all physicsl advantages, in height, reach weight.
            GGG has physical advantages and is unbeaten. Now you going to claim PACs losses don't effect the status of Floyd's win? Yeah you wish in your dreams
            He was coming off of a loss that happened FOUR years ago to a guy who ducked a rematch?

            Lets not forget that Pac went on to beat one of the best welterweights out there (Tim Bradley) twice, the same welterweight who beat took Marquez to school after Pac got robbed.

            Coming off a loss? Lmao! You guys are a joke.

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            • Originally posted by hectari View Post
              I am willing to bet you are one of those who say Pacquiao is or was a Steroid user, smh. But you keep giving Floyd these passes, if the shoe was on the other foot and Pacquiao was caught with that illegal IV and cited overtraining you would call BS, and see through it. Floyd can do no wrong in your eyes.

              You do realize PEDS are not all for knockout power right? A lot of peds are used for focus, reaction time, for speed and reflexes and stamina.

              Floyd cheated with the illegal IV, USADA and NSAC showed bias and favoritism by not enforcing the rules, fair is fair and he was caught using an illegal iv without first requesting the usage and they gave him a pass, yet denied Pacquiao a legal pain killer the night of the fight, is that fair?

              IV's are used to flush the system as well, Lance Armstrong used IV's to flush his system before getting blood tested. Peds are not all for power punching, most peds being used are for energy, reaction, speed, reflexes, and stamina.

              Floyd sold his soul to the devil. He is no victim, he is just another black man using the paranoia of struggling pro blacks to sympathize with him, while he kisses the asses of racist white men like Justin Bieber and Donald sterling.

              dudes nothing but a hypocrite and pimping black folks by playing victim because he knows many of them live vicariously through him, he even openly admit he doesn't care about Africans, and keeps bringing up that one time he gave turkey sandwiches one day to homeless in Nevada as shown on HBO 247. smh
              Irrelevant! You just wasted your time I didn't even read after you started talking about peds, because this thread is not about Peds but about weight, and the whole post I posted was focussed on the weight issue.

              However, let me entertain you a little bit. Please tell me how a guy doing random blood testing can possibly be on peds? Floyd doesn't know when he's going to get tested because it's random, so explain to me how and why he would take peds only to flush them out as soon as he takes them? Because that is exactly what he would have to do when he is undergoing RBT. He would literally have to flush long before it took effect.

              Everyone who knows about supplements and peds knows this. You have to take the **** continously over a period of time for it to be effective.

              So no, of course I don't think he was on peds. He was obviously dehydrated, because the ped accusation doesn't make sense whatsoever under the conditions. Why do you think none of the other rival boxers, promoters, coaches, etc gave a **** about this **** when the news came out? Even Oscar Dela Hoe ya , Mayweather's biggest detractor didn't have nothing to say bout it. Coz everyone knew it was bull **** dumb ass.

              It's obvious, Floyd was really dehydrated and took IV as a quick fix. Worst case scenario, if he wasn't dehydrated, is that he wanted to use the IV to gain a weight advantage on Pacquiao, which he failed at because Pacquiao still outweighed him by 3lbs.

              However, wouldn't the fact that he only weighed 149lbs on fight night support the statement that he really was dehydrated?

              You can't have it both ways buddy. You can't say he wasn't dehydrated, because if you do, then you have to explain why he only weighed 149lbs despite taking a 750ml IV.

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              • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                The reality is that GGG is getting a lot of well-deserved props, but he can't be on the elite level with championships at one weight class, and definitely not with the level of fighters he's faced so far. GGG is good, but he has yet to prove he's great:

                March 22, 2016:

                The 50 Greatest Welterweights

                Floyd Mayweather defeated more ranked welterweight contenders than Thomas Hearns (rankings by Ring/TBRB). He defeated more top five contenders than almost anyone outside the top ten, aside from the likes of Jackie Fields – but Fields also lost to a handful of welterweights. Mayweather was unbeaten.

                Mayweather defeated more welterweight lineal champions than Barney Ross. Working by the scorecards of the judges he was, for the most part, in non-competitive fights at the weight. He made a past-prime Manny Pacquiao, his #1 contender at the weight, look like a journeyman. He defeated more #1 ranked fighters (champions or top rated contenders) than all but the most storied of fighters. He boxed only three unranked men at the weight, two of whom were soft touches (Sharmba Mitchell, his first fight at the weight, and Andre Berto) and Ricky Hatton, the light-welterweight champion of the world and universally recognized pound-for-pounder, who he knocked out.

                He was one of the few men to become a two-time lineal world-welterweight champion and the only man who ever did it without losing a fight...

                http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...part-five-10-1
                I read that whole article and the author STILL couldn't keep his personal opinions on Floyd's personality to himself lol. He calls Mayweather an arrogant woman beating bully but he doesn't do the same for Sugar Ray Robinson who was very much the same way lol. Something about Floyd makes these guys lose their minds.

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                • Originally posted by rasdun View Post
                  Am I the only one that gets annoyed when someone uses the word "doe"??? lol

                  Whatever the reason, fight fans must admit that it seems to be unfair that Floyd gets the special exemption for the iv, but Pac is denied one for the painkiller
                  I agree that it SEEMS to be unfair, that I agree.

                  However, FACTUALLY speaking, it isn't unfair. NSAC's official doctors were there when Floyd was 'caught' with the IV drip, and they confirmed that they evaluated him and confirmed the dehydrated state, and Floyd was hence after given 'verbal' consent to continue with the IV treatment (verbal consent is contractually binding mind you). The paper work was finalized later but the verbal consent was given and Floyd was actually evaluated by NSAC officialls.

                  Now the Pac story is different because Pac's story didn't add up. The todorol would not have been an issue had Pac simply filled in a simple form correctly. However, Pac indicated in the form that he had no injuries and then tried to ask for a shot 40 minutes before the fight, which is why NSAC commission called bull on the whole thing, coz it was super suspiscious.

                  Also, NSAC, forty minutes before the fight had no time to verify the existence of the injury and Pac couldn't even provide a doctor to support his statement, especially after already having lied on the official document.

                  Finally, Pac verbally lied again and said that he had not only told USADA about the injury, but had received permission from them to take the todorol during training camp.

                  However, USADA released a statement confirming that Pac lied about receiving permission to use todorol and that Pac never even told them about the injury. The statement said that Pac only inquired about whether various drugs and supplements were legal or not and USADA in turn confirmed whether they were or not.

                  So you see there was actually valid reasons for Pac being denied. If Pac had told so many lies, both verbally and on documentation, then the whole todorol thing would never have been an issue. He would have got the shot easy.

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                  • Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                    And then GGG fans can Jack0ff to GGG vs. Hieland!!! Soon to be part tine Wal-Mart worker #36 for GGG.

                    Hype that POS fight!!! You GTards are good at! Ever see Creed??? You guys do the same sht with these crappy fighters. Lie about their boxing resume saying their undefeated, baddest dudes on the planet, Mike Tyson 1985 KILLERS...and yet they've just been fighting 4 rounders in MEXICO for Pasos...blahblah....
                    Stop running away from the real issue. You think you're smarter than everyone else but you're not. I see right through your agenda, which is to distract everyone from the fact that Canelo is the ***** ass coward in this whole ordeal, not GGG. Canelo has been hiding at 155 for three years already, that is just plain pathetic.

                    Also, I'm not even a Gtard, my pen name should tell you that on it's own. I'm actually a Mayweather supporter, and I have criticized GGG many times when I felt he deserved it, however, he doesn't deserve it in the Canelo-GGG situation.

                    Canelo is the ***** here, I will actually admire GGG is he doesn't budge on his stance and sticks to his principles. Because if he does, he will have not only sold his soul for money, but the soul of boxing as whole, because this Canelo-Cotto bull**** will set a terrible precedents for the future of boxing if it is allowed to take off.

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                    • Biggest tool respond ive read, dont know y he didnt take the date from Canelo and beat danny easily

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