Jeff Mayweather rips into Conor McGregor (and others)

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  • therealpugilist
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    #21
    Originally posted by bleach
    and funny enough, Manny outweighed him that night
    wow...I totally forgot that...Manny did turn pro at lower weights though, although a teenager.


    Manny should have stayed at 135-140...he would probably have cleaned out the divisons for years

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      #22
      Originally posted by WSSD
      jeffery is right though... plus nate aint even a real legit 170lbs fighter so conor didnt go up 2 weight classes. props to conor for taking the fight because he could have pulled out but he accepted the fight at a weight he wasnt too comfortable at, so props to him on that but anything else is just hype.
      this guy gets credit for losing a fight and "going up" two divisions when in reality he fought a guy one weight class up at a catchweight

      no training camp at that.....it was the biggest cherry pick gone wrong....arguably in MMA/Boxing history

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      • Ryn0
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        #23
        Originally posted by therealpugilist


        Mayweather has fought at classes ranging 24 pounds....the only fighters he has fought that were smaller than he was were Marquez, Manny, Guerrero(they are close in size), in the last in the last ten years

        In all fairness to Mcgregor, He tried to jump up 25 lbs in from one fight to another. As good as Floyd was, I can't imagine him going from Genardo Hernandez at super feather to Jr. Middleweight in his next fight and fighting someone like Terry Norris.

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        • Ryn0
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          #24
          Originally posted by Brickyardigan
          Actually Jeff was champion in Boxing. You obviously don't know **** about boxing.
          Nah Jeff and Floyd Sr. never won world titles bro. unless you mean the IBO which doesn't count.

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          • FeFist
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            #25
            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            What he is saying about Connor getting choked out is true. He doesn't need to be comparing the weight jump though because it's different. For one when bjj and wrestling is involved it's a different story. Also Floyd rarely fought anyone taller than him and never fought anyone with a longer reach except maybe Mosley. Connor did something Floyd would never have done. Now call it dumb all you want, but it's true.
            He actually didn't. As much as people go on about Connor making a huge jump up in weight, they fail to mention that the weight class was high because Nate was picked on short notice.

            It would be like Mayweather fighting Cotto at 168lb because the latter has a handful of weeks to boil down.

            McGregor moved up in weight but the margin isn't as big as people are making it out to be.

            It's wrong and insulting to make out that McGregor is doing something Mayweather has not done. Boxing fans need to stop holding boxers to a ridiculously high standard, lowering the standard for MMA fighters, and then elevate MMAist over boxers.

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              #26
              Originally posted by FeFist
              He actually didn't. As much as people go on about Connor making a huge jump up in weight, they fail to mention that the weight class was high because Nate was picked on short notice.

              It would be like Mayweather fighting Cotto at 168lb because the latter has a handful of weeks to boil down.

              McGregor moved up in weight but the margin isn't as big as people are making it out to be.

              It's wrong and insulting to make out that McGregor is doing something Mayweather has not done. Boxing fans need to stop holding boxers to a ridiculously high standard, lowering the standard for MMA fighters, and then elevate MMAist over boxers.
              MMA is a different sport altogether, its much harder to move around weight classes than boxing because physical strength counts for so much more. There isn't even a point comparing the two, there is no comparable standard.

              Also the Cotto comparison to Diaz is ******. Diaz was a legit top 10. Welterweight at one time, Rory Markham was a very good welterweight. Nates losses to Kim and Mcdonald were the top of the division at the time. Cotto never fought or beat anyone at 168, Diaz has, he beat Markham was 177.

              Floyds 'five weight divisions' achievement doesn't exist in UFC, there are only 8 weight classes. This is defending Mcgregor, couldn't care less about him, this is to point out achievements in boxing aren't even comparable to UFC and vice versa.

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                #27
                Originally posted by FeFist
                Jeff is known as the less vocal Mayweather, but when he goes in he goes in.
                Yea and to think he has the highest single digit IQ of the Mayweathers

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ryn0
                  In all fairness to Mcgregor, He tried to jump up 25 lbs in from one fight to another. As good as Floyd was, I can't imagine him going from Genardo Hernandez at super feather to Jr. Middleweight in his next fight and fighting someone like Terry Norris.
                  Who has done anything like that in boxing? I gave Mosley a ton of respect from jumping from 135 to 147 to fight Oscar. Thats HUGE in boxing & virtually no one does that these days. This is a guy who jumped from 145 to 170. I try to stay away from pissing contests between boxers over **** like this, cuz usually both things are impressive & whatever you think about McGregor if you can't give a guy respect for making the jump he made, beating the **** outta a guy before getting hit, winded & tapped you are just a ****head or a person unappreciative of the skill & drive it takes to get where these guys have gotten regardless if they win or lose.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    He actually didn't. As much as people go on about Connor making a huge jump up in weight, they fail to mention that the weight class was high because Nate was picked on short notice.

                    It would be like Mayweather fighting Cotto at 168lb because the latter has a handful of weeks to boil down.

                    McGregor moved up in weight but the margin isn't as big as people are making it out to be.

                    It's wrong and insulting to make out that McGregor is doing something Mayweather has not done. Boxing fans need to stop holding boxers to a ridiculously high standard, lowering the standard for MMA fighters, and then elevate MMAist over boxers.
                    I know Connor didn't really fight a true WW. He still fought a guy bigger than him and much longer than him. Cotto is not much bigger than Floyd. He's also shorter and doesn't have the reach.

                    What I'm saying is McGregor gave up all of his physical advantages and moved up. It would be like if Floyd at 130 moved up and fought the 140 champion at 147, only the champ was a lot taller and longer than him. He simply never did it and never would.

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                      #30
                      I'm not gonna quote every post.

                      If height and reach had nothing to do with boxing (at a high level) then why did Floyd rarely if ever fight a guy taller or longer than him? Floyd's reach and use of distance is his biggest asset. Oscar had 72 inch reach same as Floyd.

                      Moving up in weight in MMA is completely different in boxing. You don't have a guy grabbing you, wrestling, mauling you against a cage, etc. Floyd deserves all of the accolades he gets as a boxer. In this case he doesn't have anything to do with what McGregor tried to do.

                      If fans really think Floyd would have fought a top 140 contender that was taller and longer than him at 147 back when he was the 130 champion then they are dreaming.

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