Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach Backs Position: We're at 155, No 160 For Golovkin

[Scipio2009]

and reynoso wonders why he did'ent get trainer of the year when you only have one fighter and that fighter is a catchweight cheat you can't expect to much recognition

Abel Sanchez, outside of Golovkin, saw Murat Gassiev on his way to getting beat, saw Fredrick Lawson get beat, and has no other prospects even on the path under his care.

Eddy was well in his right to be a little ticked off at his work going unnoticed; no different than Roger Mayweather never getting any credit, while Roach was guiding guys to L's yet still picking up the award because Hauser's BWAA loved his the Pacquiao story.

[mike1010011]

The fact remains that Khan was willing to negotiate , and Golovkin wasn't.

Surely that puts Khan ahead of lil'G when it comes to decision-making ?

Name 1 big fight that got done, where a fighter was completely unwilling to negotiate with the A-side?

Team Golovkin used the fact that Ward was unwilling to negotiate as justification to avoid that fight, even though they knew he couldn't make 164.

Why do you have a different set of rules for Golovkin ?

Im still confused as to why you,along with many other people on this site insist on there being negotiations in this fight when it comes to weight. Lets look at two lists.

Is canelo a middleweight champion? yes
Is golovkin his mandatory opponent? yes
Is the official weight class for middleweight 160 lbs? yes
Do mandatory opponents have to agree to catchweights in order to fight the champion? No

alright,lets look at this one.

Was golovkin a supermiddleweight? no
Was golovkin the mandatory for wards belts? no
Are catchweights used in order to make fights between fighters in two different weight classes? yes,all the time (pacquiao-delahoya,floyd-marquez)

It seems like boxing has hit a verry low point,in which a career middleweight gets **** on for doing everything by the book,while a snot nosed brat wins a title at a catchweight,from a man who won it at a catchweight,and is applauded by fans for trying to use his popularity in order to gain advantages against other fighters.

As for the whole 164 issue,at least golovkins team was willing to meet ward halfway,and try to make the fight,unlike canelo sitting 1lb above jr middlweight and refusing to move. That would have been the same thing as golovkin telling ward "im more popular than you are,so either you fight me at 161,or the fight doesnt happen". Or is it wards fault for not pricing himself out,putting himself at a disadvantage,and going down to fight the more popular fighter?

[Scipio2009]

Canelo is disrespecting the Wbc not by ditching the belt, but by keeping it while insisting on 155. And sure he cares, he just recently said he's not giving it up cause he earned it in the Ring. He wouldn't agree to that lopsided purse spli vs Cotto if he didn't care about the belt

Nobody is ever going to be El Gran Campeon, but Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez is Mexico's biggest star at this point. If Mexico's biggest star puts the WBC's belt in a bucket, what does that say about the WBC?

Weight or no weight, as long as the WBC can say 'Mexico's biggest star is our champion', they're not tripping and frankly, the fans aren't tripping either. What sense would it make for Alvarez to downplay the belt in the press, if the aim was not to disrespect the WBC?

Just like agreeing to take the short-end of the lopsided purse for Mayweather, taking the short-end of the purse for Cotto was another opportunity for Alvarez to launch into stardom; Cotto having the WBC belt didn't matter.

[Shadoww702]

Here is the problem, all of you on here won't boycott Canelo when it comes time. You will give in and want GGG to fight at 155lbs just to get it done. Of course GGG can go down to that weight but it's the principle. But the boxing rules are anywhere from 155lbs to 160lbs. Imagine the Warriors telling the Spurs they have stipulations to play because they are the Champions? Mexicans especially better disown Canelo as a boxer.

I would rather boycott CRAPPY Mandatory fights against guys who have ZERO chance of winning then anything else. I'm not down to see a dead man walking mandatory get his @ss whopped against superior opponents. I've I wanted to see that then I would be ok with pros fighting in the Olympics. Which I'm not.

[Dean_Razorback]

Guess he'll drop the belt after khan. Not sure why people still defend the catchweight king

still makes no sense why is he paying the fees to defend the belt, he should have dropped it as soon as he got it.

[Shadoww702]

Im still confused as to why you,along with many other people on this site insist on there being negotiations in this fight when it comes to weight. Lets look at two lists.

Is canelo a middleweight champion? yes
Is golovkin his mandatory opponent? yes
Is the official weight class for middleweight 160 lbs? yes
Do mandatory opponents have to agree to catchweights in order to fight the champion? No

alright,lets look at this one.

Was golovkin a supermiddleweight? no
Was golovkin the mandatory for wards belts? no
Are catchweights used in order to make fights between fighters in two different weight classes? yes,all the time (pacquiao-delahoya,floyd-marquez)

It seems like boxing has hit a verry low point,in which a career middleweight gets **** on for doing everything by the book,while a snot nosed brat wins a title at a catchweight,from a man who won it at a catchweight,and is applauded by fans for trying to use his popularity in order to gain advantages against other fighters.

As for the whole 164 issue,at least golovkins team was willing to meet ward halfway,and try to make the fight,unlike canelo sitting 1lb above jr middlweight and refusing to move. That would have been the same thing as golovkin telling ward "im more popular than you are,so either you fight me at 161,or the fight doesnt happen". Or is it wards fault for not pricing himself out,putting himself at a disadvantage,and going down to fight the more popular fighter?

I think it's about the $$$$$ as well! You think GGG would fight at 160 with a 80-20 split on Canelo's favor??? I don't think GGG would take that deal at all. The weight is leverage.

[Shadoww702]

GBP will never allow Canelo into a tournament format. It's the same reason Inter Boxe wouldn't allow Bute into the Super 6. When you have a big named fighter who can sell out arenas against anybody, why risk it by forcing him into contracted fights? Tournaments are really for the B-side guys.

I don't know about that??? If he doesn't fight GGG. Getting in that tournament would at least let make him look much better for ducking. Who is GGG gonna fight??? Have you seen the WBC mandatory if Canelo drops/stripped of the belt??? And I'll watch UFC before I watch a shty 160lb tournament.

The MW division I'm sorry but is TERRIBLE!!!! BEYOND TERRIBLE! It's probably the worst division to be in right now. Outside Cruiserweight.

[Cuban Linx]

I don't know about that??? If he doesn't fight GGG. Getting in that tournament would at least let make him look much better for ducking. Who is GGG gonna fight??? Have you seen the WBC mandatory if Canelo drops/stripped of the belt??? And I'll watch UFC before I watch a shty 160lb tournament.

The MW division I'm sorry but is TERRIBLE!!!! BEYOND TERRIBLE! It's probably the worst division to be in right now. Outside Cruiserweight.

What I would like for GGG to do (doesn't mean he'll do it), is go after BJS, if Canelo can't come to terms. Once he unifies the division he should go up to 168 by 2017 and face either DeGale or Ramirez (If he beats Abraham, which I think he will). If He can't get Canelo he should definitely move up to 168 in early 2017. There are more competitive fights for him at that weight.

[TOBYLEE1]

Hypocritical comments. They say that they have fought better fighters but won't face this man unless he compromises to 155.

That sounds like a duck to me and it doesn't have any basis. If GGG is his mando he cannot make him go down

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Eddy Reynoso, trainer for WBC middleweight champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1, 32KOs), has backed his fighter's position to refuse the middleweight limit of 160-pounds for a mandated title defense against WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs).
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Sweet, time to get stripped of the WBC middleweight title then, lol. You and Candela can take a friggin hike into the sunset, you old Yoda looking freak!!