Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach Backs Position: We're at 155, No 160 For Golovkin

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Floyd caved in to every A-side demand by Oscar De La Hoya simply to get him in the ring and beat him. His career exploded into the stratosphere after that.

Golovkin needs to do the same. Accept all of Canelo's demands then simply go in the ring and beat him. The sky is the limit for his career after that.

Floyd fought an ODLH who was clearly passed his prime. It would be like Golovkin moving up to fight Arthur Abraham, who looks worse every time I see him fight at his age.

Golovkin is the older fighter in this case, and he's going down in weight vs. a younger guy in his physical prime.

[Shadoww702]

*** me!!!! I just became GGG's mandatory??? I feel asleep and they said I boxed before!!! So here I go!! ****SUKERS only gonna offer me 60k!!! Don't Know how I got RANKED but *** it!!!!

Ggg ain't got SHT OK me.. I'm da Mandatory doe.

[The Fuhrer]

Canelo flexing that A-side muscle just like TBE did.

Overratedkin said that he would go down to 154 for TBE but also said it had to be at 164 if Ward wanted to at it with him.

Truth be told everybody is guilty of this catchweight BS because alot of the biggest names ****ed with the idea of a catchweight.

[jcj0427]

Oh,so he basically put himself up against a large weight disadvantage in order to receive a large some of money,and a potential career ending beating at the hands of a larger and better fighter,just because he didn't want to get embarrassed be someone his own size(brook). Sounds like Khan is more of a whore cashing out than a boxer,and you want golovkin to whore himslef out to canelo. Thanks for clearing that up for me boss.

Thank you. Why doesnt any1 else see it like this? People are giving Khan so much credit for taking on big bad Canelo. Dude would rather look like a warrior against a bigger guy then challenge a guy his own size ala Garcia 2 or Brook and get his ass kicked.

[Travycat]

If you can't fight at 160, fight at 154. Would you expect Klitschko or Fury to come down to 155 lol

[b00g13man]

Floyd fought an ODLH who was clearly passed his prime. It would be like Golovkin moving up to fight Arthur Abraham, who looks worse every time I see him fight at his age.

Golovkin is the older fighter in this case, and he's going down in weight vs. a younger guy in his physical prime.

Not even close

[Jubei]

Canelo is pissing and ****ting his pants at the thought of having to fight GGG at the real weight. Have you ever seen such a scared mexican before in boxing?

This guy is a disgrace.

[aboutfkntime]

That's one fight though. A fight that they were very fortunate the decision went in their favor (Thanks to Levi Martinez). Like you said, De La Hoya was livid because he didn't want that matchup. Now imagine several of those Lara type fights back to back, that's what a tournament format does.

A tournament format is good for the b-side guys or for the young prospects looking to make a name. It was great for Andre Ward because he was contracted to fight guys that were bigger names than him and they couldn't turn him down because they contractually obliged to fight him. Plus he had the skills to beat all of them, and he did. A tournament has no benefit for a star like Canelo.

Like you mentioned with Bute, there's a reason that InterBoxe didn't want him in the tournament. He was a big time star in Montreal, selling out the Bell Centre, headlining HBO cards, pulling in huge gate numbers. He goes through the Super Six he likely loses 1,2, maybe even 3 fights. Then you've basically lost your star attraction. Granted Bute is still a popular guy in Montreal, he still sells well, but nowhere near the level since he got pasted by Froch.

The same would happen to Canelo. There's no way Canelo goes through the proposed WBC tournament unbeaten. Not with guys like the Charlo's, Andrade, Lara, J-Rock, Vanes etc. He will take a few L's. GBP realizes this, there are too many things that could happen and they can't afford to lose him.

I see what you mean. Not so much that tournaments are designed for lesser guys, just that they benefit younger/less accomplished fighters more than existing stars because they open doors and guarantee exposure. Fair call, I'm sure that is true.

The super-6 would have been extremely difficult/dangerous for Bute, but no more difficult/dangerous than it was for the top guy Kessler. I guess Kessler should be applauded.

[aboutfkntime]

Im still confused as to why you,along with many other people on this site insist on there being negotiations in this fight when it comes to weight. Lets look at two lists.

Is canelo a middleweight champion? yes
Is golovkin his mandatory opponent? yes
Is the official weight class for middleweight 160 lbs? yes
Do mandatory opponents have to agree to catchweights in order to fight the champion? No

alright,lets look at this one.

Was golovkin a supermiddleweight? no
Was golovkin the mandatory for wards belts? no
Are catchweights used in order to make fights between fighters in two different weight classes? yes,all the time (pacquiao-delahoya,floyd-marquez)

It seems like boxing has hit a verry low point,in which a career middleweight gets **** on for doing everything by the book,while a snot nosed brat wins a title at a catchweight,from a man who won it at a catchweight,and is applauded by fans for trying to use his popularity in order to gain advantages against other fighters.

As for the whole 164 issue,at least golovkins team was willing to meet ward halfway,and try to make the fight,unlike canelo sitting 1lb above jr middlweight and refusing to move. That would have been the same thing as golovkin telling ward "im more popular than you are,so either you fight me at 161,or the fight doesnt happen". Or is it wards fault for not pricing himself out,putting himself at a disadvantage,and going down to fight the more popular fighter?

They negotiate EVERYTHING.

Just wondering, are you a Pacquiao fan ?

It was during Pacquiao's run that I first noticed a fighter making weight a major issue during EVERY consecutive fight negotiation.....

And I told everyone that manny-weight was a nasty precedent.

Nobody objected, in fact nobody said a damn thing.

Cotto caught on, after being fk'd over by Pac, and now we have canelo-weight.

It has nothing to do with fans dude, THAT is the boxing landscape now.

The " fans " should have done the right thing when it came to Pacquiao..... now we have canelo-weight.

Good luck relying on Canelo to take it upon himself to "right-the-wrongs" within boxing..... especially during a negotiation with Golovkin, who uses those exact same tactics himself.

Also, you are making out that the Ward situation is somehow different, so YOU are the main cause of this problem, thinking that you can approve or disapprove catchweights arbitrarily.

Come on man, they fkn knew that Ward could not make 164, especially after the 172 catchweight for the Smith fight, come on man THEY FKN KNEW..... it was an excuse to duck the fight or beat Ward on the scales..... it was fkn lame, and it is EXACTLY the same as the situation with Canelo, no different whatsoever.

It is the people who insist that situation is somehow different that has made me support Canelo on this one..... because that is shameful and disgraceful.

[aboutfkntime]

Canelo flexing that A-side muscle just like TBE did.

Overratedkin said that he would go down to 154 for TBE but also said it had to be at 164 if Ward wanted to at it with him.

Truth be told everybody is guilty of this catchweight BS because alot of the biggest names ****ed with the idea of a catchweight.

No, just like Manny did.

I told y'all that manny-weight was a nasty precedent.

It is funny as fk to see pacfans bash canelo-weight.