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  • aboutfkntime
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    #71
    Originally posted by bigjer88
    Where to begin?

    Here's what I know about the Logan Act:

    1. It was signed into law in 1799.
    2. Since 1799 there has been one prosecution under it.
    3. That lone prosecution was in 1803 and was unsuccessful.

    Consitutional scholars have expressed skepticism as to whether the Logan Act is constitutional, with many opining that it is hopelessly vague and overbroad. So why is it still on the books? Why hasn't it been declared unconstitutional? Because you can't challenge constitutionality unless you have a live case or controversy. Once again there hasn't been a live case or controversy under the Logan Act since 1803.

    You call it absolute treason and one of the worst examples...man. Where did you learn history? Who gave you your law degree? Trump University? The Tea Party? Don't bother responding -- there's a conspiracy theory out there just waiting for you to discover it.

    For the record, this is what happens at Bilderburg.....


    "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
    ~ David Rockefeller, 1991


    How is that not blatant treason ?

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    • GTTofAK
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      #72
      He is a populist and a nationalist. That does not make him a *******. Fascism is a system of government. It originated in Italy as an offshoot of the syndicalists. Fascism is cooperative syndicalism. Nothing trump has proposed has any similarity what so ever to cooperative syndicalism. Or at least I have not heard Trump proposing that every single sector of the economy be restructure into their own syndicates controlled by a cooperative of owners, labor, and party. Personally I dont think Trump is that smart. I dont agree with Gentelli's(the fonder of Fascism) approach to economics but there is no denying the fact that the man was brilliant.

      When you consider the importance of the party in the ******* system and take a look at he current relationship between Trump and the party to call him a ******* is absolutely laughable.

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      • bigjer88
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        #73
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        For the record, this is what happens at Bilderburg.....


        "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
        ~ David Rockefeller, 1991


        How is that not blatant treason ?
        Let's put our little debate here back in context. Someone else said ***** committed culpable crimes. I said, "Ok. Back that up. Name a single law he violated and show how he violated."

        You chimed in with a patently weak example: the Logan Act and the Bilderburg Convention. I said, "Is that the best you can come up with," and then proceeded to show you how meaningless that law has been since it took effect 217 years ago.

        Your response was, effectively, "Come on, dude. It's treason."

        You then posted several links to a single, far-right website which is driven by a strong anti-***** agenda. Your "research" is not driven by a search for truth. You are merely looking for views that reinforce your own perspective.

        And, I still say, the Logan Act?!?!?! C'mon, dude. The Logan Act. That's rich.

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        • bigjer88
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          #74
          Originally posted by nacho daddy
          Brooklyn and what does that matter
          With the idiocy you're espousing, I was wondering whether you live in a place where Trump has strong support.

          So who is the 14 year-old girl in your avatar?
          Last edited by bigjer88; 03-24-2016, 07:09 AM. Reason: punctuation

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            #75
            As much as I hate how often ***ish folk pull the Hitler/**** card, he isn't wrong.

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              #76
              Originally posted by bigjer88
              With the idiocy you're espousing, I was wondering whether you live in a place where Trump has strong support.

              So who is the 14 year-old girl in your avatar?
              If I was you I would be minding my own business. in sec 8 housing where you live Hillary Klingon support very high

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              • bigjer88
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                #77
                Originally posted by nacho daddy
                If I was you I would be minding my own business. in sec 8 housing where you live Hillary Klingon support very high
                If I understand you correctly, you're saying that I live in Section 8 housing, right? That comment is so off the mark that it doesn't offend my in any way.

                Or...are you saying that I better mind my own business because you live in Section 8 housing?

                I'm having a difficult time understanding your insult. Please try again.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #78
                  bigjer88.....

                  Who do you think was responsible for the 9/11 attacks ?

                  You likely think that a couple of Arabs who live in a cave turned off NORAD.....

                  ..... right ?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bigjer88
                    Let's put our little debate here back in context. Someone else said ***** committed culpable crimes. I said, "Ok. Back that up. Name a single law he violated and show how he violated."

                    You chimed in with a patently weak example: the Logan Act and the Bilderburg Convention. I said, "Is that the best you can come up with," and then proceeded to show you how meaningless that law has been since it took effect 217 years ago.

                    Your response was, effectively, "Come on, dude. It's treason."

                    You then posted several links to a single, far-right website which is driven by a strong anti-***** agenda. Your "research" is not driven by a search for truth. You are merely looking for views that reinforce your own perspective.

                    And, I still say, the Logan Act?!?!?! C'mon, dude. The Logan Act. That's rich.

                    You didn't answer my question.

                    Read this.....

                    "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
                    ~ David Rockefeller, 1991


                    Now explain to me, using big words, how that is not blatant treason ?

                    You don't think that the US president supporting World Government is treason?

                    WTF ?

                    How does your constitution feel about that ?

                    Oh right, you no longer have a constitution..... because ***** UTTERLY DESTROYED IT, with The Patriot Act and The Homeland Security Act LMAO

                    You actually think you know what's going on, don't ya ?

                    The globalists will have their World Government, because of people like you.

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                    • bigjer88
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      You didn't answer my question.

                      Read this.....

                      "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
                      ~ David Rockefeller, 1991


                      Now explain to me, using big words, how that is not blatant treason ?

                      You don't think that the US president supporting World Government is treason?

                      WTF ?

                      How does your constitution feel about that ?

                      Oh right, you no longer have a constitution..... because ***** UTTERLY DESTROYED IT, with The Patriot Act and The Homeland Security Act LMAO

                      You actually think you know what's going on, don't ya ?

                      The globalists will have their World Government, because of people like you.
                      Blatant treason by whom? Rockefeller? How is *****, in 2008, responsible for comments made by Rockefeller 17 years earlier? Neither the Constitution, which you claim to value, nor common sense would permit a criminal conviction against one individual for the statements of another individual 17 years earlier.

                      On a related point, you seem to have a problem with chronology. You blame ***** for destroying the Constitution and you point to the Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Act? When were those acts passed?

                      So, to recap, you have pointed to three different sources of law as evidence of *****'s criminality:

                      1. The Logan Act (one criminal prosecution since 1799);
                      2. The Patriot Act (passed in the first year of W's first term);
                      3. The Homeland Security Act (passed in the second year of W's first term).

                      What else would you like to pin on *****? Was that him on the grassy knoll?

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