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  • #41
    Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
    Do you believe professional boxers should be allowed to use the clenbuterol ?
    No.

    For guys below HW it can be a very useful drug to lose the last couple of difficult pounds.

    I simply don't trust this situation.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
      No.

      For guys below HW it can be a very useful drug to lose the last couple of difficult pounds.

      I simply don't trust this situation.
      Browne was proudly show casing for months how serious he was taking camp and how he was shedding weight coming in leaner, fitter, stronger.

      I fail to see what their is to not trust, this is not RUSADA we are talking about here this is THE most trustworthy of the organisations, ie the ones Mayweather and Pacquiao don't like to use.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
        Browne was proudly show casing for months how serious he was taking camp and how he was shedding weight coming in leaner, fitter, stronger.

        I fail to see what their is to not trust, this is not RUSADA we are talking about here this is THE most trustworthy of the organisations, ie the ones Mayweather and Pacquiao don't like to use.
        I don't see the issue with taking your last chance at a world title a little more seriously. He wasn't exactly in great shape, just a little better than usual.

        This thing has been shady from the start, even during the fight when they rang the bell early when Chagaev got hurt. I don't think guys fully understand Clen, if he's going to cheat he can afford a simple blend of fast acting test along with tren and mast....he'd get massive performance enhancements along with the weight loss, a HW cheating with Clen is just not adding up.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
          Taurine and others can reduce cramps, particularly with Dbol and similar compounds. With Clen, no amount of taurine or anything else will allow you to train close to 100% without cramping badly in minutes. Reducing cramping between weight lifting is entirely different to trying to reduce it between high intensity training and boxing work.

          I don't care about Browne whatsoever, average fighter and not someone I care to watch fight on a regular basis. However, this entire thing has sounded shady from the get go.
          All the evidence points towards Browne cheating:

          * Lowest weight of his entire career, at age 36 after 7 years as a pro heavyweight.
          * Reduced weight + improved mobility & speed was key to victory.
          * Positive test for Clenbuterol, commonly used weight-loss drug.
          * Samples collected and test conducted by impartial USA agency VADA not Russian agency RUSADA.

          Only things shady about that is all related to Browne himself, not the testing protocol.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
            I don't see the issue with taking your last chance at a world title a little more seriously. He wasn't exactly in great shape, just a little better than usual.

            This thing has been shady from the start, even during the fight when they rang the bell early when Chagaev got hurt. I don't think guys fully understand Clen, if he's going to cheat he can afford a simple blend of fast acting test along with tren and mast....he'd get massive performance enhancements along with the weight loss, a HW cheating with Clen is just not adding up.
            Of course it adds up, he wanted to be fitter, stronger and appear more leaner to impress his fans garnering more interest in the fight in the build up with his 'deceiving' look to dedication.

            I fail to grasp which part you fail to acknowledge Browne would benefit from taking the 'performance enhancing drug'

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            • #46
              Originally posted by volt View Post
              i also think he is being stitched, in one of the rounds of that fight they rang the bell 40 something seconds early when ruslan chag looked hurt, yet nothing come of that.
              And In the round before, they rang the bell about 40 seconds late too because Chagaev looked to have Browne hurt.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                Of course it adds up, he wanted to be fitter, stronger and appear more leaner to impress his fans garnering more interest in the fight in the build up with his 'deceiving' look to dedication.

                I fail to grasp which part you fail to acknowledge Browne would benefit from taking the 'performance enhancing drug'
                Clen does not make you fitter or stronger, that's the whole point. It does nothing but up your body temperature to lose a few extra lbs, it makes no sense.

                If he was looking to get stronger and better conditioned he would have used something like a rip blend. Clen gives you terrible side effects and nothing but some fat loss in return, pointless for a HW. If he was going to risk cheating, he's not doing it with Clen.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
                  All the evidence points towards Browne cheating:

                  * Lowest weight of his entire career, at age 36 after 7 years as a pro heavyweight.
                  * Reduced weight + improved mobility & speed was key to victory.
                  * Positive test for Clenbuterol, commonly used weight-loss drug.
                  * Samples collected and test conducted by impartial USA agency VADA not Russian agency RUSADA.

                  Only things shady about that is all related to Browne himself, not the testing protocol.
                  All evidence points to a stitch up in my eyes.

                  * Chagaev fighting at home

                  * Chagaev hurts Browne, bell to end the round is late to give him more time

                  * Browne hurts Chagaev, bell rings 40 seconds early

                  * Browne KO's Chagaev, he then fails a drug test for the first time in his life, for a drug that makes no sense

                  Sorry, but it's all a little too convenient.

                  If I'm Deontay Wilder, I'm thinking about calling off the Povetkin fight.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                    All evidence points to a stitch up in my eyes.

                    * Chagaev fighting at home

                    * Chagaev hurts Browne, bell to end the round is late to give him more time

                    * Browne hurts Chagaev, bell rings 40 seconds early

                    * Browne KO's Chagaev, he then fails a drug test for the first time in his life, for a drug that makes no sense

                    Sorry, but it's all a little too convenient.

                    If I'm Deontay Wilder, I'm thinking about calling off the Povetkin fight.
                    Chagaev is promoted by Terek, Povetkin is promoted by World of Boxing. Are you insinuating Russia is just corrupt as a whole ? Who would you prefer to have done the testing USADA because they're a real stand up bunch right ?

                    You realise if Wilder calls off the fight he will be stripped and lose out on a career high purse. I'm fairly certain if he ducked Povetkin on that basis alone he and his team would stand to lose a lot of money in slander charges, all this does is emphasise the need forinvolvement of VADA for their upcoming fight as Wilder and Povetkin have both aroused su****ion on this forum in regards to PED usage, personally I do not believe either use any form, I do however believe Browne has used said PED due to the shape he brought himself to the fight in as opposed to his abysmal shape throughout his boxing career.

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