Insight into why Fat Dan Rafael hates Haymon fighters and PBC

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  • Mitchell Kane
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    #121
    Originally posted by Cinci Champ
    hauser is on the hbo and gbp payroll its not by accident anyone not ridiculously bias no longer takes him serious including other writers who are now coming out bashing him over his haymon series
    There's very few boxing writers people take seriously these days.

    Rafael, Iole, Kim, Coppinger...you can find fault with any of them.

    Pugmire is pretty solid, but he only covers boxing part-time.

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      #122
      Originally posted by ИATAS
      Typically get him on Friday Night Fights, try to look impressive and go from there. That was the basic strategy for lots of smaller managers and promoters for years. Sometimes these 12-0 guys are local guys brought in to lose, make someone else's record look good by beating an undefeated guy, sometimes these guys win and get bigger fights or perhaps lose but look good, which is geat exposure. Sometimes these guys work there way up. Lots of variations. That's gone now. No more Friday night fights. The other networks are PBC affiliated and HBO. The others the Mexican networks. So the options are getting smaller and smaller.
      Yeah. Top Rank's path for a fighter used to be from Spanish-language television to basic cable to premium cable and ppv.

      There is no good basic cable option right now with the PBC controlling ESPN, FS1, NBCSN, etc.

      That's only part of Top Rank's problem, because the premium cable well has pretty much dried up for them too, with HBO cutting their budget and SHO being solidly with Haymon.

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        #123
        Originally posted by ИATAS
        Typically get him on Friday Night Fights, try to look impressive and go from there. That was the basic strategy for lots of smaller managers and promoters for years. Sometimes these 12-0 guys are local guys brought in to lose, make someone else's record look good by beating an undefeated guy, sometimes these guys win and get bigger fights or perhaps lose but look good, which is geat exposure. Sometimes these guys work there way up. Lots of variations. That's gone now. No more Friday night fights. The other networks are PBC affiliated and HBO. The others the Mexican networks. So the options are getting smaller and smaller.
        Toe to Toe Tuesdays features plenty of prospects. Same with Spike TV. The NBCSports channel. I'm missing one. And Haymon works with a lot of promoters. You don't have to be managed by him to get on his cards either.

        So actually there are more options now than there were before. It's why an Errol Spence was able to fight four times last year on like four different channels. And why the idea that a 12-0 fighter can't get on TV is completely contradictory to the reality of the sport today.

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          #124
          a lot easier for a 12-0 fighter to get on TV now. they just have to make sure they don't sign with an HBO promoter.

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            #125
            Originally posted by FeFist
            Dan is an unprofessional fat fuck, fuck him. Why do boxing fans even value him? Has he contributed anything of value to the sport?
            No. Not even close...

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              #126
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              And don't forget he insinuated Haymon should be lynched......If PBC does succeed and more mainstream media start covering and talking about boxing they'll be shocked at the bias and basic journalism ethics boxing writers routinely ignore. Hauser was great before he worked with HBO. His three part series on HBO is a classic. He had a very high level source. HBO cut the number of people attending their meetings to single digits and Hauser was still able to find out what happened in the meetings. With this first piece he's admitted there are only 4 people close to Haymon and they don't talk. So any info he writes in the next 4 articles will be from sources speculating from the outside or fringe people. Like a manager of a boxer who has no idea what goes on inside Haymon's inner circle.
              So basically Hauser is admitting that he's talking out of his ass...

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                #127
                The third part of Hauser's article is up now at the Ring. Sounds like he's gonna write that Haymon is defrauding Waddell & Reed and/or their investors.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Pigeons
                  The third part of Hauser's article is up now at the Ring. Sounds like he's gonna write that Haymon is defrauding Waddell & Reed and/or their investors.
                  Yawn. Not even worth the read.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Pigeons
                    This is from the RING. Part 1 of Thomas Hauser's expose on Al Haymon's life which will surely turn into Hauser defaming Haymon.
                    A "professional" as fatass dan like to call himself... doesn't do the bs things that he does.... blocks people left & right for asking him questions (yes ive seen those smh), always propping up TR fighters above all else... was high on rigo.... once rigo left TR he's been shittin on him ever since.

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                      #130
                      Does anyone even know if fat dan has EVER done one push up in his life?

                      I mean come on!

                      A guy that has been watching/following boxing for his lifetime.... not one sit up, push up, lap around the park?

                      I guess his only exercise is running to the fast food joints before they close.

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