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  • Fetta
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    #51
    Originally posted by FrankieClutch
    Khan would've gotten the Floyd fight had he decided to fight Alexander the first time around. Khan did too much sitting around and waiting for Floyd/Pac instead of making a statement with a big win or two.
    Or if he would have beat Garcia instead of getting KO'd or if he beat Peterson.

    He had so many chances and let them slip through his fingers.

    he got his big fight though, bit off more than he can chew IMO, but i am happy for him and am getting this fight.

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    • FrankieClutch
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      #52
      Originally posted by Fetta
      Or if he would have beat Garcia instead of getting KO'd or if he beat Peterson.

      He had so many chances and let them slip through his fingers.

      he got his big fight though, bit off more than he can chew IMO, but i am happy for him and am getting this fight.
      I agree. Each time there was an opportunity for him to impress and get the big fight, something happened (a loss, a controversial fight, not fighting, etc.)

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      • VG_Addict
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        #53
        LOL @ Khan being skilled.

        People want to talk about Khan's strengths, without talking about his weaknesses. He has more weaknesses than strengths.

        People don't seriously think Khan could compete with Floyd, do they? I always thought that was just some big inside joke.

        Also, LOL at thinking the Alexander fight is any indicator of how Khan would do against Floyd. Alexander isn't in the same universe as Floyd in terms of skill.

        You'd think after struggling against ancient Diaz and Algieri, and losing to Prescott and Garcia, people would realize that Khan is B-level at best.

        Also, Khan's power is decent, nothing more. Floyd and Manny have fought MUCH harder punchers.

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        • HanzGruber
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          #54
          boxing people are so delusional at times

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            #55
            Originally posted by sterilizer
            Khan was always a threat to both Mayweather and Pacquiao.
            Let's see the top-rated opponents Khan and Mayweather had in common:

            1) Maidana: Khan knocked him down and won by unanimous decision. Floyd won two times the same way, but was never able to drop Maidana, not even hurt him.

            2) Judah: Khan obliterated him the whole fight until he KO'd him in the 5th. Judah knocked Mayweather down after punching him (glove touching the canvas) but didn't get the KD because the referee pretended it was a slip. Floyd won by decision, way less convincingly than Khan did when he totally destroyed Judah.

            Many, if not MOST people, felt that Khan was more of a threat than Maidana for Floyd, simply because the latter had already faced bunches of opponents like Maidana (tough and strong but relatively slow, flat footed and very limited skill-wise), whereas Floyd had NEVER EVER faced a guy as fast and skilled, both in hands and legs, as Khan. Also check the KO ratio of Khan. He may have been KO'd a couple of times, but he has KO'd others way more times. HE DOES HAVE POWER.

            So Khan was a legitimate threat for both Floyd and Manny, because of his speed and power. Also, Khan utterly dismantled Alexander, who in turn destroyed Maidana much worse than Floyd did --actually, Floyd had a very tough time with Maidana both times and if the fight had taken place in a place other than the US, he may have not won any of the two fights.

            OTOH, people are quick to criticize Canelo for facing a MUCH FASTER guy who yes, he is naturally two weight divisions smaller, but yet taller than him and with better reach (even if Wikipedia ******ly states the opposite, Khan is evidently taller and has a larger arm reach than Canelo).

            NOW, WHAT ABOUT FLOYD WHEN HE FOUGHT JMM (MARQUEZ)???

            Marquez was at least two divisions smaller. He was shorter, had way less arm reach, he was fat and out of shape, yet way lighter in weight. And he was naturally slower both in feet and in hand speed (although not that much in the latter). He was so small and out of shape that all his great combinations meant nothing because he was weaker than Malignaggi, against such a bigger and 100% in-shape opponent (Floyd).

            Now THAT WAS A SUPER-MISMATCH, a total embarrassment. Floyd couldn't even KO the much smaller, shorter, slower, weaker, fatter, two-divisions lighter guy. But of course, Floyd is American and the great majority of "boxing fans" on here are Americans. So even if their idol does such a cowardly thing like fighting a guy who is utterly handicapped against him in all possible aspects, they will stay silent about such injustice, and just claim that their idol "toyed with JMM". Of course, ANYONE under such unfair circumstances, would have KO'd Marquez easily, never going the distance versus such a physically inferior opponent.

            Canelo-Khan is an even fight, compared to that travesty that was Floyd-JMM at the time. But most people completely ignore that. This is very unfair because it is ALWAYS about nationalities, races and ethnicities. Most so called "boxing fans" always root for the person they identify with most, rather than the guy who is actually the better fighter regardless of his citizenship, color or race.

            OK, so you support Mayweather..... right ?

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            • FrankieBruno
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              #56
              He is right

              Floyd went out like a ***** fighting that bum Berto, one of the most cowardly moves in the history of boxing. Health comes first i guess

              and Pacman has no say over his career, his pimp/slavemaster has the final say so. Someone needs to sit Pacman down and get him to watch Django Unchained

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              • FrankieBruno
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                #57
                Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                Khan would've gotten the Floyd fight had he decided to fight Alexander the first time around. Khan did too much sitting around and waiting for Floyd/Pac instead of making a statement with a big win or two.
                Who did Berto beat to get the Floyd fight?

                Stop making excuses for Floyd.

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                • FrankieClutch
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                  Who did Berto beat to get the Floyd fight?

                  Stop making excuses for Floyd.
                  I'm not making excuses for anyone. I'm calling a spade a spade. If Khan fights and beats Alexander like he did but a year earlier, he gets the Floyd fight. Point blank.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                    He is right

                    Floyd went out like a ***** fighting that bum Berto, one of the most cowardly moves in the history of boxing. Health comes first i guess

                    and Pacman has no say over his career, his pimp/slavemaster has the final say so. Someone needs to sit Pacman down and get him to watch Django Unchained

                    Right, so..... Mayweather is a b1tch, but Pacquiao isn't ?

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                    • FrankieBruno
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                      I'm not making excuses for anyone. I'm calling a spade a spade. If Khan fights and beats Alexander like he did but a year earlier, he gets the Floyd fight. Point blank.
                      No he wouldnt have

                      For whatever reason, this older version of Floyd never fancied a fight with Khan.

                      There was no reason to fight Berto over Khan, all the excuses some Floyd fans made to why he picked Berto, was darn right embarrassing

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