Comments Thread For: Roy Jones Jr. Finally Explains Why He's Fighting a Fan on PPV

[Strive 4 Truth]

What a blast it would be to have that opportunity!! I would love the shot.

[taste]

So if Phillips wins he gets a hundred grand. What does he get if he looses, just black eyes?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Explanation still makes him look silly. Would Tyson, Lewis or Sugar Ray take part in a farce like this.

Tyson did, at an exhibition where he almost knocked the guy out. Had to catch him to keep him from falling down.

Ali did (or at least I count it) against Antonio Inoki, a wrestler.

Butterbean boxed in WWF's Brawl For All.

Floyd Mayweather "wrestled" the Big Show at WrestleMania.

Kurt Angle wrestled nobodies on "Pros vs. Joes" (an awesome show, mind you). Quite a few athletes were on that show.

So yes, there's a history of farce setups like this.

But I want to call this out here:

" At the same time, as a fan, he's not going to be able to deal with me as a boxer, but he gets the thrill of a lifetime to be able to get in the ring with me. You know how many people would give up their life to get in one NBA game or NFL game or get one fight? Just to do something that has been a dream and they've aspired to do for their whole life. Can you imagine what that means for a person?

First of all, his opponent has an amateur background. So what he says is garbage.

"I don't really give into the critics because critics are always going to criticize and what have they done? A person who has never done nothing can't really care nothing about doing something. So as far as the critics, I don't care what they think. I don't have time to give to critics. If I spent my career responding to critics, I'd never be where I'm at right now."

Now I know he's got some brain damage, because Lennox Lewis himself has openly been a critic of Jones getting in there again.

[Eff Pandas]

"Who says he couldn't hit a home run"

I get a weird feeling RJJ is hyping the fight as well as setting up a story in event he does lose or get KO'd lol. I mean I can't see him losing, this is a MMA guy who's losing MMA fights in 5th rate MMA leagues in a boxing match, but it gives me that feeling all the same.

Also wtf give this Vyron Phillips cat some money for his cornermen ffs. How they just gonna fly a fighter out for this opportunity (even if he's gonna lose) without his f#cking cornermen.

https://www.gofundme.com/y3t6sf6s

If RJJ wants to fight fans he'd probably be better served to just setup a ring in Vegas somewhere during a big fight weekend & charge guys $100, $1,000 or something to step into the ring with him for a round. This is an embarrassing display for boxing to have any connection to & does the sport a disservice in the mind of boxing & sports fans alike. If the Denver Bronco's tried playing some random semi-pro football team it'd be a lol moment for sports, the NFL & Bronco fans in particular. Sadly boxing is like a crackhead sport & nothing is beneath it if it can make someone some money to pay next months bills. Boxing really really really needs a non-corrupt centralized power structure that can better represent the sport.

[Eff Pandas]

Tyson did, at an exhibition where he almost knocked the guy out. Had to catch him to keep him from falling down.

Ali did (or at least I count it) against Antonio Inoki, a wrestler.

Butterbean boxed in WWF's Brawl For All.

Floyd Mayweather "wrestled" the Big Show at WrestleMania.

Kurt Angle wrestled nobodies on "Pros vs. Joes" (an awesome show, mind you). Quite a few athletes were on that show.

So yes, there's a history of farce setups like this.

I'm not sure what the Tyson exhibition you mention is, but it was an exhibition so I don't think it counts. Most of the rest of the stuff you mention is fake pro wrestling stuff so that definitely doesn't count. The Kurt Angle thing I'm not familiar with, but I assume since he's in a fake sport it doesn't really matter or isn't comparable.

And while the fight between Ali & Inoki was real from most accounts I've read Inoki was hardly a fan & this was more of a hybrid fight (some people suggest this was the first modern day MMA fight) & not a pro boxing match. I believe its been recorded as an exhibition in the record books.

This RJJ vs a fan fight is a sanctioned professional boxing match between a multi division champion vs a guy without a pro boxing record & a ****ty MMA record (5-3, losing 3 of his last 5 in 5th rate MMA leagues). If it was a exhibition or a sparring match (not unlike last weeks Shawn Porter vs Leo Tyner FB deal) it'd be much more understandable & not quite the joke it is.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I'm not sure what the Tyson exhibition you mention is, but it was an exhibition so I don't think it counts. Most of the rest of the stuff you mention is fake pro wrestling stuff so that definitely doesn't count. The Kurt Angle thing I'm not familiar with, but I assume since he's in a fake sport it doesn't really matter or isn't comparable.

And while the fight between Ali & Inoki was real from most accounts I've read Inoki was hardly a fan & this was more of a hybrid fight (some people suggest this was the first modern day MMA fight) & not a pro boxing match. I believe its been recorded as an exhibition in the record books.

This RJJ vs a fan fight is a sanctioned professional boxing match between a multi division champion vs a guy without a pro boxing record & a ****ty MMA record (5-3, losing 3 of his last 5 in 5th rate MMA leagues). If it was a exhibition or a sparring match (not unlike last weeks Shawn Porter vs Leo Tyner FB deal) it'd be much more understandable & not quite the joke it is.

Your logic is faulty.

In one post you criticize the fact that Roy Jones is fighting a guy without a pro boxing record (despite the fact he has an amateur boxing record).

Then you go on to dismiss other fighters who have faced guys without professional records - REGARDLESS of the other factors.

In the Tyson exhibition the guy was not a pro boxer. It was staged as an exhibition to raise money for charity. But he was NOT a pro boxer. Same difference as with Jones. Wasn't televised, or at least I can't find a clip of it. Didn't last long, 3 rounds if I recall.

In Ali/Inoki - Inoki was NOT a pro boxer. Same difference.

In Butterbean - Brawl For All was NOT fake wrestling. That was legit shoot fighting long before UFC got where it got. Dan Severn was there too, but the point with Butterbean is that he was legit fighting people who had no pro fighting experience. This is the definition of farce.





In Kurt Angle - that was shoot wrestling, not WWE. Had nothing to do with WWE. Angle was legit throwing the guy around and the guy had little-to-no wrestling experience. That was the whole point of Pros vs. Joes. Google it sometime. They did boxers, basketball, football, wrestling, etc.

[SN!PER]

We know the real reason.

Roy visited BoxingScene and saw all these keyboard warriors laughing at him, so now he's beating up boxing fans.

[- Ram Raid -]

"I don't have time to give to critics. If I spent my career responding to critics, I'd never be where I'm at right now."

Alas, Roy seems to think that where he's at right now is a good place for a former pound for pound, multiple division champion, Hall of Fame fighter to be. What's to be done with this guy? HBO kicking him a job clearly didn't curtail his dire need to prove people wrong.

He's spent the majority if his career responding to critics real and imagined. In a manner that would get a twelve year old diagnosed with oppositional defiance disorder. That's all good when you've got it but when its gone, long gone, we end up with this semi tragic spectacle. Maybe now's the time to start taking on board some of those valid criticisms and concerns and engage in some critical self reflection.

Failing that, someone needs to call his father and ask him to tell Roy that nothing would make him happier than seeing his son box on. Maybe that would make him hang up the gloves.

[Eff Pandas]

Your logic is faulty.

In one post you criticize the fact that Roy Jones is fighting a guy without a pro boxing record (despite the fact he has an amateur boxing record).

Then you go on to dismiss other fighters who have faced guys without professional records - REGARDLESS of the other factors.

In the Tyson exhibition the guy was not a pro boxer. It was staged as an exhibition to raise money for charity. But he was NOT a pro boxer. Same difference as with Jones. Wasn't televised, or at least I can't find a clip of it. Didn't last long, 3 rounds if I recall.

In Ali/Inoki - Inoki was NOT a pro boxer. Same difference.

In Butterbean - Brawl For All was NOT fake wrestling. That was legit shoot fighting long before UFC got where it got. Dan Severn was there too, but the point with Butterbean is that he was legit fighting people who had no pro fighting experience. This is the definition of farce.





In Kurt Angle - that was shoot wrestling, not WWE. Had nothing to do with WWE. Angle was legit throwing the guy around and the guy had little-to-no wrestling experience. That was the whole point of Pros vs. Joes. Google it sometime. They did boxers, basketball, football, wrestling, etc.

I think you are confusing yourself. And I also got no clue what amateur boxing matches has to do when the disparity in accomplishments is this great. If you got a 2-1 or 3-0 guy vs a pro debuter with 50-100 amateur fights or something fair enough with making that fight. This guy had 7 amateur bouts & is fighting a guy with a 130 amateur bouts who made it to the Olympics & has had 70ish pro bouts winning titles from 160lbs to HW.

None of the things you mentioned was a sanctioned professional boxing match. They were pro (ie fake) wrestling, exhibition fights or hybrid fights. If they made this a exhibition I'd have no problem with it. Elite boxers spar guys with no pro fights all the time in the gym. There are exhibitions with people who don't have pro fights. Thats fine. Its a joke to have a pro boxing match involving a multi division pro boxing champion vs a guy making his pro debut. The Arizona boxing commission is a bs commission to allow this fight to happen.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I think you are confusing yourself. And I also got no clue what amateur boxing matches has to do when the disparity in accomplishments is this great. If you got a 2-1 or 3-0 guy vs a pro debuter with 50-100 amateur fights or something fair enough with making that fight. This guy had 7 amateur bouts & is fighting a guy with a 130 amateur bouts who made it to the Olympics & has had 70ish pro bouts winning titles from 160lbs to HW.

None of the things you mentioned was a sanctioned professional boxing match. They were pro (ie fake) wrestling, exhibition fights or hybrid fights. If they made this a exhibition I'd have no problem with it. Elite boxers spar guys with no pro fights all the time in the gym. There are exhibitions with people who don't have pro fights. Thats fine. Its a joke to have a pro boxing match involving a multi division pro boxing champion vs a guy making his pro debut. The Arizona boxing commission is a bs commission to allow this fight to happen.

Semantics.

The bottom line is you've got a guy with a lifetime of experience facing someone with little-to-no experience in a given sport.

Every example I shared is the same thing.

Point: Roy Jones is not the first and won't be the last to put on the farce.