Tim Bradley's Welterweight Run

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • BM dnobagaV
    Școala vieții
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Dec 2015
    • 5592
    • 314
    • 488
    • 49,880

    #41
    Originally posted by larryx..
    This is what i dont get about this site..they praise stuff like this but **** on bigger accomplishments...the fighters listed are not even full ww's
    Floyd beat on a lot of JWW's, LW's, etc at WW.
    PEOPLE MOVE UP. Realize that.

    Is Hagler's win over Hearns a throwaway because Hearns was a "Welterweight"?

    Floyd beat a FW in Marquez. Why is that a good win?
    He beat Canelo who once was a WW. That win sucks right?

    Get your own head out of your ass. Is Vargas not a WW now? He beat an up-coming Ali by knockout for a WW belt.

    Comment

    • soul_survivor
      LOL @ Ali-Holmes
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Jun 2013
      • 18949
      • 623
      • 473
      • 65,236

      #42
      Originally posted by No Diggity
      Bradley completely schooled Marquez that fight. Shove your stats mate, it can't be seen worse than 8-4.
      Agreed! Compubox is a load of bollocks and I've never once referenced it as a scoring criteria.

      Originally posted by LacedUp
      They are all good fighters and his wins are good, but most of them could have taken place at LWW.

      Abregu and Chaves are decent, but nothing special.
      Mayweathers wins over Judah, Hatton and Ortiz at the very least were all over "140 pound fighters" or Pacquiaos over Cotto and Hatton or Leonard's over Duran (LW) or Mosley beating Oscar was simply beating a super feather.

      We could do this nonsense all day.

      Comment

      • soul_survivor
        LOL @ Ali-Holmes
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Jun 2013
        • 18949
        • 623
        • 473
        • 65,236

        #43
        Originally posted by No Diggity
        Floyd beat on a lot of JWW's, LW's, etc at WW.
        PEOPLE MOVE UP. Realize that.

        Is Hagler's win over Hearns a throwaway because Hearns was a "Welterweight"?

        Floyd beat a FW in Marquez. Why is that a good win?
        He beat Canelo who once was a WW. That win sucks right?

        Get your own head out of your ass. Is Vargas not a WW now? He beat an up-coming Ali by knockout for a WW belt.
        Don't reply to Larry. He thought Whitaker was a heavyweight and Broner was a future atg, FOTD and p4p guy. smh.

        Comment

        • LacedUp
          Still Smokin'
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Oct 2009
          • 29171
          • 781
          • 381
          • 132,163

          #44
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          Mayweathers wins over Judah, Hatton and Ortiz at the very least were all over "140 pound fighters" or Pacquiaos over Cotto and Hatton or Leonard's over Duran (LW) or Mosley beating Oscar was simply beating a super feather.

          We could do this nonsense all day.
          there's a difference between a win over a former 140 lber and a win over a guy who should fight at 140.

          Comment

          • mathed
            molṑn labé
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Feb 2009
            • 54551
            • 2,742
            • 2,984
            • 224,675

            #45
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            So, Bradley's ww run started all the way back in 2010, with a fight against Carlos Abregu.

            Since then, his run has consisted of the following fights, in chronological order:

            Pacquiao (W) WBO title
            Ruslan Provodnikov (W)
            Marquez (W)
            Pacquiao (L)
            Diego Chaves (D)
            Jessie Vargas (W)
            Rios (W) WBO title

            In that time, Bradley has become a 2 time WBO champ, beaten 2 HOFers (one of them very dubiously) and been in 2 FOTY contenders. That's not bad and far better than the likes of Porter, Thurman, Brook, Khan, Guerrero and Garcia. I won't even bother mentioning Berto and Ortiz.

            It's pretty obvious to me that he is the 3rd best ww of his generation, second only to Mayweather and Pacquiao.

            What do you guys think?
            I agree and think that Tim would dominate anyone that PBC has ATM. Not even a knock on those guys, I just think he is on another level than they are.

            Comment

            • ramses07
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Apr 2011
              • 2006
              • 226
              • 88
              • 23,870

              #46
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              It's not about having a great resume (I was simply listing all his ww fights) but it's better than anything the other guys in the division have done thus far.

              Also, he beat Marquez pretty easily, stopped Rios who had never been stopped before and went to war with Ruslan who looked on fire that night.

              What's bad about that? Has Berto, or Ortiz or Thurman done anything more?
              pretty sure the marquez fight was far from easy.

              even his own trainer, teddy atlas, scored it it 7-5 bradley.

              and marquez was 40

              and marquez outlanded him in power punches

              Comment

              • soul_survivor
                LOL @ Ali-Holmes
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Jun 2013
                • 18949
                • 623
                • 473
                • 65,236

                #47
                Originally posted by mathed
                I agree and think that Tim would dominate anyone that PBC has ATM. Not even a knock on those guys, I just think he is on another level than they are.
                I think Porter gives him a could fight but it would be an ugly affair, like that DA fight some years ago. Difference is, Porter has heart.

                Comment

                • soul_survivor
                  LOL @ Ali-Holmes
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 18949
                  • 623
                  • 473
                  • 65,236

                  #48
                  Originally posted by ramses07
                  pretty sure the marquez fight was far from easy.

                  even his own trainer, teddy atlas, scored it it 7-5 bradley.

                  and marquez was 40

                  and marquez outlanded him in power punches
                  Atlas wasn't his trainer back then.

                  Marquez had just KOd Pacquiao and looked in better shape than most 25 year old athletes.

                  Compubox don't mean **** with me son.

                  Comment

                  • Santa_
                    Banned
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 14673
                    • 1,417
                    • 378
                    • 143,233

                    #49
                    Vargas DESTROYS him in a rematch!


                    All I ask for is a competent ref.

                    Comment

                    • soul_survivor
                      LOL @ Ali-Holmes
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 18949
                      • 623
                      • 473
                      • 65,236

                      #50
                      Originally posted by Santa_
                      Vargas DESTROYS him in a rematch!


                      All I ask for is a competent ref.
                      Why do you think this? Vargas showed nothing new against Ali. Right hand, left hand, rinse, repeat. That's all he is. He got fortunate enough to catch Bradley at a time when Bradley had just lost a tad concentration. One punch does not change what happened.

                      Bradley one at least 10 rounds that night.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP