Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao is Not The Same Guy Who Fought Hatton

[Aristocrat]

I don't see this drop-off in Pac at all, other than in his punch output, and the fact that he looks fatigued at the end of his fights now.

All this " been done since Margarito " stuff is just fan talk I think.

He looked real sharp against Mosley..... oh, until Shane decided to move.

In the fights with Marquez he had the same problems hes always had.

In the Bradley fights he either looked good, or he didn't, depending on what Tim was doing.

And the common problem in all of those fights, was badly exposed for the whole world to see against Mayweather, but they were always there.

Other than his punch output, I don't see this significant drop-off at all.

He looked great against Rios and Algieri, because they were available, just like Margarito.

Well Pac doesn't seem to hit as hard as he did in 2012. and he hasn't been on his toes and constantly moved his head for all 12 rounds since then as well. he's been very flat footed

[aboutfkntime]

Manny has simply been exposed to more difficult styles, (Bradley, Marquez, Mayweather, and to a lesser degree Mosley) and has not enjoyed the same level of timing/contractual advantages that he had against the likes of Cotto.....

..... those guys were always going to open up more cracks than "available" guys like Algieri/Rios/Margarito/Clottey/Hatton/Diaz.

Other than his punch-output, I don't see this huge slippage.

And nope, I don't buy that killer-instinct thing either

[aboutfkntime]

Well Pac doesn't seem to hit as hard as he did in 2012. and he hasn't been on his toes and constantly moved his head for all 12 rounds since then as well. he's been very flat footed

He has always been predominantly flat-footed, more puncher than boxer.

[aboutfkntime]

What fk's the " badly faded " myth, are Pac's performances against Algieri and Rios.


" unavailable " = not so great

" available " = wow, suddenly we are right back on track again

[aboutfkntime]

boxing is all about styles/matchmaking, with an emphasis on timing

Top Rank did a great job, Pac fought the right guys at the right time.

[Teetotaler]

Manny hasn't looked like that since the marquez ko

[ChiCityExtractz]

Im game, I can't wait. Ill be in attendance ringside April 9th.

[Spiegelo]

He has always been predominantly flat-footed, more puncher than boxer.

I'm sick of this "puncher or boxer" idea, where you can only be on one side of the spectrum. You really oversimplify all the levels of boxing when you say this. Yes, Manny is an offensive fighter, but that doesn't make him a one dimensional brawler. If you look at the last Marquez fight, you'll see brilliant boxing on display. He feints, then uses lateral movement to put him in perfect punching position. He's always balanced to attack, even while moving. It's the same way boxers like Bernard Hopkins set up their attack. Despite getting ktfo, he nearly doubled the accuracy and punches landed on one of the most accurate counter punches in the sport. He also hasn't looked anything like that ever since. And the notion that he is flat footed is ridiculous. Everyone keeps saying look at the Margarito fight. He doesn't stop moving throughout the entire fight. Then look at his last 4 fights, and tell me if you see the same nonstop, lateral movement.

Pac's clearly been on the decline since Margs, and ever since he got ktfo, he doesn't seem to enjoy getting hit as much, nor does he fly in for the kill. Hope that helps you see what everyone else is talking about.

[The plunger man]

a once in a generation fighter who has created so much drama and so many brilliant and exciting fights......I hope he wins in style and then retires....legend

[screwhead1]

Got off the juice, different man.