Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao is Not The Same Guy Who Fought Hatton

[fanofslug]

Floyd easily beat pacquaio. Because he did it in a way you didn't like

He did it in a way that no one liked. How can you fight a guy who hides behind his shoulder, won't engage unless he knows there's 0% risk and is more concerned about maintaining a safe distance than landing punches? Defensive genius, you say? Boxing is being able to actually FIGHT without being hit, not "I'll move my arm to make it look like I just did something....oh God...I hope he doesn't land, better back off". He's a snivelling, spineless coward who fought a war wear dispirited recently KOd Manny with no vigour left. *****footing around the ring and throwing feather fisted slaps is not boxing. It's what prisoners do when they're trying to avoid a potential ****.

[alexguiness]

Manny was at his best when he was hungry.

Now it's all Jesus, Politics and other less relevant stuff.

I'm happy he is retiring, I just hope he has enough fire left for Timmy!

[Spoon23]

He did it in a way that no one liked. How can you fight a guy who hides behind his shoulder, won't engage unless he knows there's 0% risk and is more concerned about maintaining a safe distance than landing punches? Defensive genius, you say? Boxing is being able to actually FIGHT without being hit, not "I'll move my arm to make it look like I just did something....oh God...I hope he doesn't land, better back off". He's a snivelling, spineless coward who fought a war wear dispirited recently KOd Manny with no vigour left. *****footing around the ring and throwing feather fisted slaps is not boxing. It's what prisoners do when they're trying to avoid a potential ****.

Lol good one.

That's a good way of stressing a very important point.

[Spoon23]

I think posters here forgot Floyd's least punch output of his career was fighting Manny. The funny thing is, it was even padded by the rigged compubox that has been proven biased for him lol

Yes, manny has the least punch output of his career in this fight too, but at least in his case he has a clear reason why his punch out put dropped. He had a torn rotator cuff injury.

[Spoon23]

What's Floyd excuse for having the poorest punch output of his career?

Here is Manny's


Torn rotator cuff red mark @ right shoulder.



Dr.Neal ElAttrache (the same doctor who performed the surgery on Kobe Bryant's). Explains Pacquiao's rotator cuff injury.

[aboutfkntime]

True, you did say more puncher than boxer, but you also said "He has always been predominantly flat-footed."

And yes, he clearly doesn't enjoy getting hit as much. As ****** as it sounds, he used to smile and welcome the exchanges. He no longer responds the same. Even against Rios, who he danced circles around and beat the hell out of for all 12 rds, on the 2 occasions where Rios landed, Pac completely changed his demeanor and would go on the defensive for a short while. Same when fighting Bradley, he was very cautious of those right hands. It's not like when Barrera or BHop completely changed their aggressive styles to better suit their age/physicality. Instead, this looks more like hesitation and at times, fear of getting hit.

What I said was, I don't see any difference in Pac WHATSOEVER, other than his punch-output dropping back to normal, and he seems more hesitant since the Marquez ko.

Which is basically what you said.

[aboutfkntime]

I think posters here forgot Floyd's least punch output of his career was fighting Manny. The funny thing is, it was even padded by the rigged compubox that has been proven biased to him lol

Yes, manny has the least punch output of his career in this fight too, but at least in his case he has a clear reason why his punch out put dropped. He had a torn rotator cuff injury.

Pretty dumb to fall for that shht.

[Dosumpthin]

What's Floyd excuse for having the poorest punch output of his career?

Here is Manny's


Torn rotator cuff red mark @ right shoulder.



Dr.Neal ElAttrache (the same doctor who performed the surgery on Kobe Bryant's). Explains Pacquiao's rotator cuff injury.

Can you explain how a torn rotator cuff makes a red mark?

[screwhead1]

This thread is hilarious. Some folks clearly are too upset to talk realistically about this fight.

[nacho daddy]

Pacquiao is like every other speed demon who relies on physical attributes they age quickly usually early 30s, he has been fighting on fumes for years now, he has been past it since the Margarito fight, I remember in the Clottey fight even though he threw a record number of punches, Lou Dibella said that Pacquiao was aging and he saw him slowing down right after the fight that was years ago.

Bradley even said when he first fought Manny he was much faster and snappier with his shots, in the rematch he said Pac was slower and hesitant, and didn't commit to shots, he said he was able to find him more as opposed to the first fight when both guys were basically very quick and avoiding and slipping shots when they mixed it up.

Both Bradley and Manny are at the same stage of their careers, both slower, both vulnerable, only difference is Bradley still has the desire and hunger to compete, While Pac has said for the past several years he is already content with his achievements in boxing, whenever a boxer says that and they continue fighting they are only fighting for a Check, because it means they have nothing else to prove so he is only fighting for Money now.

Bradley was easy to hit when he was young. manny even older and slower still is not easy to hit that is a big difference and will affect the fight