wasn't odd when ''Frampton ordered../Rigo'' headlines, Rigo @ UK gets cancelled..

[Lester Tutor]

How much did Warren help out McGuigan?

Wasn't the only way for the Rigo mando was for Rigo to get through Jazza ****ens?

[Scipio2009]

How much did Warren help out McGuigan?

Wasn't the only way for the Rigo mando was for Rigo to get through Jazza ****ens?

Franpton also owed the IBF a mandatory defense, which he was likely to take instead (if the Santa Cruz fight didn't get made), so there's that...

[Lester Tutor]

Franpton also owed the IBF a mandatory defense, which he was likely to take instead (if the Santa Cruz fight didn't get made), so there's that...

Well both are on PBC. It would seem natural for McGuigan and company to state Santa Cruz. However, if in theory Rigo has enemies, we would've read more reports about Rigo's "shameful" disappearance. This way Rigo is never brought up again, at least for now, in fighting Frampton any time soon.

Therefore, I'm more than sure that behind the scenes, because many parties mentioned have stayed quiet, that Rigo most likely received a nondisclosure settlement by Box Nation...

Isn't this obvious?

[Scipio2009]

Well both are on PBC. It would seem natural for McGuigan and company to state Santa Cruz. However, if in theory Rigo has enemies, we would've read more reports about Rigo's "shameful" disappearance. This way Rigo is never brought up again, at least for now, in fighting Frampton any time soon.

Therefore, I'm more than sure that behind the scenes, because many parties mentioned have stayed quiet, that Rigo most likely received a nondisclosure settlement by Box Nation...

Isn't this obvious?

Rigondeaux is not an economically viable fight for Team Frampton; if it came down to it, they'd defend the IBF title against Shingo Wake, vacating the WBA belt.

to try and create some "backroom shenanigans", over a fight that wasn't viable, for a person with options to choose from, is a bit much.

[Lester Tutor]

Rigondeaux is not an economically viable fight for Team Frampton; if it came down to it, they'd defend the IBF title against Shingo Wake, vacating the WBA belt.

to try and create some "backroom shenanigans", over a fight that wasn't viable, for a person with options to choose from, is a bit much.

This was Rigo's first UK appearance. You're saying there's no possibility than an old Frank Warren fighter goes and beats ****ens the way he did against Amagasa or Donaire? A bout like that would CLEARLY put Warren on the spot for anything in the future of Rigo vs Frampton or if McGuigan is again asked on the spotlight about Rigo. Sure it's bad luck that Rigo's last fight (and in short notice) wasn't much of entertainment, but many A level fighters have had mediocre nights. I mean how was Frampton vs Quigg since we're contextualizing a UK bout?..

The best way to theorize is just follow the trail as of right now... Stuff like this just burries away and makes a mockery of fans that follow the sport seriously. Like when the ''initial'' Golovkin vs Lee bout was into play and then cancelled. Both fighters never spoke about the original plan up until late 2015, with Lee never stating that he would've already fought Golovkin had circumstances been different.

The whole visa story was just another form for the press to know it was step down money. Box Nation made the call, and I'm sure Roc Nation respected the deal...

[BendOver]

Rigondeaux is not an economically viable fight for Team Frampton; if it came down to it, they'd defend the IBF title against Shingo Wake, vacating the WBA belt.

to try and create some "backroom shenanigans", over a fight that wasn't viable, for a person with options to choose from, is a bit much.

so shingo make more sense economically speaking? Stop with the bs, it is because is a winnable fight, they are not fighting Rigondeaux because is a certain defeat, not because money....

[Scipio2009]

This was Rigo's first UK appearance. You're saying there's no possibility than an old Frank Warren fighter goes and beats ****ens the way he did against Amagasa or Donaire? A bout like that would CLEARLY put Warren on the spot for anything in the future of Rigo vs Frampton or if McGuigan is again asked on the spotlight about Rigo. Sure it's bad luck that Rigo's last fight (and in short notice) wasn't much of entertainment, but many A level fighters have had mediocre nights. I mean how was Frampton vs Quigg since we're contextualizing a UK bout?..

The best way to theorize is just follow the trail as of right now... Stuff like this just burries away and makes a mockery of fans that follow the sport seriously. Like when the ''initial'' Golovkin vs Lee bout was into play and then cancelled. Both fighters never spoke about the original plan up until late 2015, with Lee never stating that he would've already fought Golovkin had circumstances been different.

The whole visa story was just another form for the press to know it was step down money. Box Nation made the call, and I'm sure Roc Nation respected the deal...

Simply watch the postfight interview after Frampton-Quigg; Frampton believes that he's good enough to beat Rigondeaux, but Barry McGuigan (manager/promoter) doesn't think the fight makes much sense, rattling off 3-5 other compelling fights that do more for Frampton than a Rigo fight could possibly do.

I don't see the point of Warren/McGuigan creating a controversy, to stop a fight that literally no one is even clamoring for.

[Scipio2009]

so shingo make more sense economically speaking? Stop with the bs, it is because is a winnable fight, they are not fighting Rigondeaux because is a certain defeat, not because money....

Shingo Wake comes to fight (though still using some boxing craft), will likely bring some Japanese TV money with him, and likely won't be a pain to negotiate the fight with.

Yes, Frampton vs Wake is a more economically viable fight than Frampton vs Rigo, for the simple fact that having Rigo on the show isn't going to move a single extra ticket.

[The Akbar One]

Rigs would beat the **** out of Frampton. He beats the **** out of guys close to his own size, and Frampton at 5'3 is just that, his size, slow, with bad defense. Which spells stoppage inside of six rounds. Frampton would rather lose his 0 to Santa Cruz on American TV. It will look similar to the Santa Cruz beat down of Kiko Martinez. As Frampton has a similar limited skill set, and doesn't have the boxing ability to get bast the long reach of Santa Cruz.

[Lester Tutor]

Shingo Wake comes to fight (though still using some boxing craft), will likely bring some Japanese TV money with him, and likely won't be a pain to negotiate the fight with.

Yes, Frampton vs Wake is a more economically viable fight than Frampton vs Rigo, for the simple fact that having Rigo on the show isn't going to move a single extra ticket.

Yes Frampton said he "would love to fight Rigo" and the convo is short, and very much different than when Frampton talks about other opponents. Now I don't know how Cliff Rold views boxing compared to the super fit Dan Rafael, but aside from excuses about ticket sales, that's not just the sole essence of Pro Boxing. I'm sorry it's not. Some could exaggerate and say Rigo is bad for boxing because of some mishaps but the guy has proved how phenomenal he is. I don't know anybody in boxing as slick as him atm, where he glides with a jab and moves swiftly meters away controlling the pace like he's on some quick hover board.

Other real analysts and empirical merit clear shows who is p4p. Put it this way, is Frampton ahead of Rigo in p4p listings? It's clear and present danger what Rigo could do to Frampton's image. Which is why I believe McGuigan and Warren are happy Rigo did not debut in the UK. We can't assume how Rigo woukd have performed. We just can't. And again, Frampton vs Quigg wasn't all that impressive until the late rounds.