Comments Thread For: Sillakh: Barrera is a Good Boxer, Andre Ward a Level Above Him

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    You're doing the same thing you're accusing others of (making irrelevant/unfounded statements). You just called Ward "rusty" when he hasn't shown anything of the sort. In fact, everyone said he showed no rust this past fall. If you want to have any credibility, don't trip yourself up like that and show some consistency.
    All fighters have some rust after significant time away from the ring. If observers say they didn't notice any rust when they tuned into BET to watch Ward fight Paul Smith, it's probably because he was fighting Paul Smith.

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #32
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      All fighters have some rust after significant time away from the ring. If observers say they didn't notice any rust when they tuned into BET to watch Ward fight Paul Smith, it's probably because he was fighting Paul Smith.
      If you're going to insert your assumptions and conclusions then you have to accept it when others do the same. Otherwise it's just biased fanboy/hater bullshyt.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        If you're going to insert your assumptions and conclusions then you have to accept it when others do the same. Otherwise it's just biased fanboy/hater bullshyt.
        I disagreed with Sillakh's opinion, some posters disagreed with mine. It's called debating. My finishing argument is, we'll see on fight night who's opinion is correct.

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        • Superbee
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          #34
          Ward would absolutely not go through the likes of Stevenson, Beterbiev and Kovalev...

          He would go through the likes of Barrera, Fonfara, Gonzalez, Pascal, Shabranskyy with ease and then call it a night to not face the aforementioned ones...

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            #35
            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
            Tell me you're not a staunch Ward supporter. There's unanswered questions about this, which causes me to doubt Sillakh's statement. When did he spar with Ward? Was it the known badass prospect of 4 years ago, or the present rusty, post-surgery Ward that he sparred? Likewise for Barrera; when in his career did he spar him? Like I said, we won't know if Ward is still all that until fight night. I'm betting he's lost something between all that time off and shoulder surgery.

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            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
            Tell me you're not a staunch Ward supporter. There's unanswered questions about this, which causes me to doubt Sillakh's statement. When did he spar with Ward? Was it the known badass prospect of 4 years ago, or the present rusty, post-surgery Ward that he sparred? Likewise for Barrera; when in his career did he spar him? Like I said, we won't know if Ward is still all that until fight night. I'm hoping he's lost something between all that time off and shoulder surgery.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Superbee
              Ward would absolutely not go through the likes of Stevenson, Beterbiev and Kovalev...

              He would go through the likes of Barrera, Fonfara, Gonzalez, Pascal, Shabranskyy with ease and then call it a night to not face the aforementioned ones...

              ..... and this is despite the fact that there is nothing whatsoever to indicate that could/would happen..... and despite the fact that Ward has signed a 3-fight deal ending with Kovalev.

              cool story genius

              Golovkin fan, right ?

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                #37
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Yes, I am a staunch Ward supporter, therefore I will disagree with anything you say that suggests he'll have trouble with Barrera.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  And here's a reminder of the level Andre Ward is at now ... Paul Smith.

                  No need for names, just look at the image -- it's more than enaough...

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                  • kafkod
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MDPopescu
                    No need for names, just look at the image -- it's more than enaough...

                    You mean Ward and Barrera?

                    Barrera was seen as an easy mando for Kovalev. Then he signed to fight Ward instead and turned into a 175lb version of Rigo.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      You mean Ward and Barrera?

                      Barrera was seen as an easy mando for Kovalev. Then he signed to fight Ward instead and turned into a 175lb version of Rigo.
                      ... this also... he gets a pass doe, because I hear that Ward needs to accommodate at 175... But wtf? The guy was the Olympic LHW champion!?!

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