If Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather were prime at the same time?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He didn't have any dance partners

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Buster Douglas

[MrRolltide91]

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In terms of big ppv fights?


How many of them does good ppv numbers?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

In terms of big ppv fights?


How many of them does good ppv numbers?

Well the buster douglas fight would have been a big freakshow

Tyson, lennox, evander would have broken records..


Roys earning power would have been much higher had he taken out some of that eras middleweights and supermiddleweights... Floyd didn't just get the Oscar fight,, he worked his way up, and had smaller PPv fights like gatti, Judah, baldomir.. Had roy taken tougher fights he would be more highly regarded..,fighting guys like del Valle, Vinny paz, Brannon, isn't going to raise your profile or make you a star..

[MrRolltide91]

Well the buster douglas fight would have been a big freakshow

Tyson, lennox, evander would have broken records..


Roys earning power would have been much higher had he taken out some of that eras middleweights and supermiddleweights... Floyd didn't just get the Oscar fight,, he worked his way up, and had smaller PPv fights like gatti, Judah, baldomir.. Had roy taken tougher fights he would be more highly regarded..,fighting guys like del Valle, Vinny paz, Brannon, isn't going to raise your profile or make you a star..

That's a good point.


Lol didn't roy fight a former cop?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

That's a good point.


Lol didn't roy fight a former cop?

Lol.. Yeah, Rick frazier I think his name was...

[soul_survivor]

Reverse it then - Roy is prime in Floyd's era. Floyd still gets Oscar and to play off of Manny, but Roy also gets the advantage of using a more advanced media stage (which benefited both Manny and Floyd). In this scenario, I don't think Floyd and Manny could delay fighting each like they did if they wanted to keep their high star status. Also, Roy would assume the role of the #1 flashy, trash talking black fighter. Floyd wouldn't exactly be a Broner to Roy's Floyd so to speak (Floyd would still be undefeated), but Floyd's antics depend on being #1 in order to work to their fullest.

That's interesting, if Roy was prime in the mid to late 00s, what division would he be fighting in? Heck, let's stretch that prime to 2015...would we see Roy at LHW v Kovalev/Hopkins/Pascal/Stevenson? Or would Roy be down at super middle working with Froch, Ward, DeGale?

There's probably more money fighters from 168-175 now then there were back in the late 90s. Having said that, I still feel Manny and Floyd would be THE guys, especially in terms of money and PPV. Jones was never a PPV attraction and that wouldn't change too much now, plus, the level fo fame that May/Pac have accumulated over the last several years is just a tier below Ali and Tyson. I don't believe Roy could get close to that.

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buster douglas??? buster douglas??? lol come on man that is really grasping at straws. he was off the map after he came in fat and sluggish against holyfield and Jones was only a few years into his pro career at that point and a middleweight. Buster douglas was never a draw after holyfield and especially by the late 90s when it would have even been feasible for roy to go to heavyweight.

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That's interesting, if Roy was prime in the mid to late 00s, what division would he be fighting in? Heck, let's stretch that prime to 2015...would we see Roy at LHW v Kovalev/Hopkins/Pascal/Stevenson? Or would Roy be down at super middle working with Froch, Ward, DeGale?

There's probably more money fighters from 168-175 now then there were back in the late 90s. Having said that, I still feel Manny and Floyd would be THE guys, especially in terms of money and PPV. Jones was never a PPV attraction and that wouldn't change too much now, plus, the level fo fame that May/Pac have accumulated over the last several years is just a tier below Ali and Tyson. I don't believe Roy could get close to that.

yeah even if roy was around for super 6 or whatever... there were still so many names in the lower weights for big ppv match ups. There just hasnt been anything equivalent 160-cruiser in a long time to compare.

pac, dlh, hatton, canelo, cotto, mosley ect ect. PBF had so many big names down there, and even when they werent HUGE names, he made sure to face the mexican guys on the holidays to maximize PPV buys.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

buster douglas??? buster douglas??? lol come on man that is really grasping at straws. he was off the map after he came in fat and sluggish against holyfield and Jones was only a few years into his pro career at that point and a middleweight. Buster douglas was never a draw after holyfield and especially by the late 90s when it would have even been feasible for roy to go to heavyweight.

Buster Douglas made a brief comeback circa 1997, and him and jones were in serious talks. Roy vacated his belt, and was planning on moving to heavyweight.. Would have been a freakshow fight but a lucrative one.. When roy went back to lightheavy, he was reinstated as champ, and that started a lawsuit...

Would have been a massive event and raised Roy's profile.. Even though it was a freakshow

[soul_survivor]

yeah even if roy was around for super 6 or whatever... there were still so many names in the lower weights for big ppv match ups. There just hasnt been anything equivalent 160-cruiser in a long time to compare.

pac, dlh, hatton, canelo, cotto, mosley ect ect. PBF had so many big names down there, and even when they werent HUGE names, he made sure to face the mexican guys on the holidays to maximize PPV buys.

Exactly, plus Mayweather and Pacquiao, the two leading stars of the last 7 or 8 years (can't have one without the other), both not only got the Oscar rub but were attractive to boxing audiences for various reasons, attributes that Jones did not have.