What if GGG agrees on terms with Canelo, then pulls a Salido on the scales ?

[The Big Dunn]

I remind everyone that Canelo is a big step up from what GGG is used to facing in the ring. The very real possibility is that he will lose to Canelo even if he "pulls a Salido".

He'd get no belts and likely pay a HUGE penalty, all of which would have to come from his money because his team will get paid based off the purse.

I don't know if it's worth the risk.

[j0zef]

WBC would sanction the fight if this happens, as long as it's within 160. The penalty clauses are generally very lenient. For example, when Paul Smith came severely overweight against Ward, he was only fined $37.5k - generally chump change. But obviously that depends on the contract.

But the real question is what would happen if Canelo pulls out of the fight on the night of weigh in. Does WBC strip him immediately? Does he get another x number of days/months to negotiate with the mandatory?


Personally, I would lose a lot of respect for Golovkin if he pulls something like that. It's extremely unprofessional. If someone doesn't want to fight you, then don't make them.

[gmc_rfc_06]

The fight would likely be cancelled.

You're not going to 'get one over' on the biggest name in boxing.

[MindGame]

I remind everyone that Canelo is a big step up from what GGG is used to facing in the ring. The very real possibility is that he will lose to Canelo even if he "pulls a Salido".

He'd get no belts and likely pay a HUGE penalty, all of which would have to come from his money because his team will get paid based off the purse.

I don't know if it's worth the risk.

Totally valid point....

But in order for team GGG to undertake a maneuver like this, they'd have to be more than confident in the outcome...

Even with the penalty, the hypothetical makes sense....
A Canelo vs GGG fight is likely the largest PPV fight out there.. (Floyd staying retired.)
If GGG would have made 10 million plus but loses half or even more at the scale...... He still make 3 -5 million or more to beat Canelo on the biggest PPV venue in boxing... Then Canelo will have to think about chasing GGG for redemption... Most likely at 160...

There is much to gain if team GGG is reasonably certain of the outcome.. A very bold move, but the clock is ticking on GGG's career.

[b00g13man]

Canelo isn't ******. There'll be a weight related penalty, and we know GGG loves those paychecks.

[MindGame]

The fight would likely be cancelled.

You're not going to 'get one over' on the biggest name in boxing.

Those Canelo fanatics would have scheduled several months of their life around this fight.. Taking time off from work and paying for hotels... Would Alvarez really do that to his fans ???
All the money Oscar and HBO would have spent in the promotion, PPV broadcasting and venue costs...

REALLY ???
No way Canelo cancels over a couple of pounds, no way !!! GGG loses $$$ at the scale and the fight goes on..
Canelo's ego is huge, but not that big... He's not ******...

[gmc_rfc_06]

Those Canelo fanatics would have scheduled several months of their life around this fight.. Taking time off from work and paying for hotels... Would Alvarez really do that to his fans ???
All the money Oscar and HBO would have spent in the promotion, PPV broadcasting and venue costs...

REALLY ???
No way Canelo cancels over a couple of pounds, no way !!! GGG loses $$$ at the scale and the fight goes on..
Canelo's ego is huge, but not that big... He's not ******...

It's happened plenty of times, it's about the principal.

If you miss the agreed upon weight, you have no room to complain if the fight is cancelled. It wouldn't be Canelo's fault nor would he be accountable for the fight being off, it's all on the person who failed to hold up their end.

[The Big Dunn]

Totally valid point....

But in order for team GGG to undertake a maneuver like this, they'd have to be more than confident in the outcome...

Even with the penalty, the hypothetical makes sense....
A Canelo vs GGG fight is likely the largest PPV fight out there.. (Floyd staying retired.)
If GGG would have made 10 million plus but loses half or even more at the scale...... He still make 3 -5 million or more to beat Canelo on the biggest PPV venue in boxing... Then Canelo will have to think about chasing GGG for redemption... Most likely at 160...

There is much to gain if team GGG is reasonably certain of the outcome.. A very bold move, but the clock is ticking on GGG's career.

I am sure ODH will have the penalty be much more than that-likely Manny's $10 mil per lb suggestion.

ODH can always make money with Canelo so its to his advantage to do what Bob (IMO) did with Manny-wait until you run out of options.

Canelo has many more options, including other unification bouts, that GGG just doesn't have. It just looks like GGG is going to have to make major concessions to get what he wants.

[Scipio2009]

This is a very unethical approach, but boxing has questionable ethics...

Perhaps GGG is legitimately is unable to make the weight ??? Perhaps he'd have no intention of making the weight ??? But the motives are irrelevant when they step in the ring.....

If GGG agrees to fight Canelo Alvarez at 155, (And is reasonably close in weight leading up to the weigh in, not sparking su****ion.) then steps on the scales at 157.5 (Or so) What happens ?

I'd asume GGG will lose $$$ as a penalty (As negotiated prior to signing the contract) and his credibility will become a issue at all future catch weight fights....

But I think that the pressure to continue the fight would be to great for Canelo to pull out at the 12th hour...

The WBC would have no say, as long as GGG was under the 160 pound Middleweight limit...

Canelo would still have to fight or vacate... What would Canelo do ?
Will his pride put him in the ring ?
(Like Lomachenko did when Salido was way overweight in their title fight.)


Thoughts ???

Alvarez walks out of the fight, without much qualm. Golden Boy, hopefully being of some intelligience, will book 1-2 other junior middleweight/middleweight fights on the card, to have options in place.

Alvarez isn't a chump, and Golovkin, as an opponent, likely doesn't move the needle all that much more than a Gabriel Rosado would move the needle.

If Golovkin steps onto the scale at 157.5, Alvarez will give him the customary 2 hours to sweat off the weight, and if he doesn't, Alvarez walks from the fight (leaving Golden Boy to fill in the spot with someone else on the show).

[BrometheusBob.]

If he comes under 160, he can still potentially fight for the belt. Most likely GGG takes a huge financial penalty for that, and possibly Canelo outright pulls out of the fight.

I'm just looking for GGG to stop Cantnelo's hype train. He ain't ready for someone who isn't much smaller than him.