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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post-Deontay Wilder has an 18k-seat building in Alabama that he can call home, in addition to 14k people coming out to see Wilder-Szpilka at the Barclays Center (Szpilka deserving credit for that as well); he's not Mayweather yet, but he's most definitely a draw.
Wilder-Molina wasn't great, either, averaging 678k.
Those are not good numbers.
His fight with Duhaupas had rather modest ratings for a PBC show with somethign like 2.365 million average.
Wilder can do crowds in Alabama, just like Terence Crawford can do crowds in Omaha...but those aren't big markets with premium ticket prices and it doesn't get the same exposure as a fight in a market like NY or LA.
Wilder did get a good crowd, so we'll see if he can build on the attendance he did against Szpilka...but let's also see how he does against Povetkin.
Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post-Garcia, flirting with defeat, also adds another angle to his arc. Personally, I think Garcia's longterm prospects are better than you think.
Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post-Will simply have to agree to disagree about Erroll Spence JrLast edited by Mitchell Kane; 03-01-2016, 04:55 PM.
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Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View PostThe attendance for Wilder-Szpilka was good but the SHO ratings were awful....it averaged 500k with a peak of 623k.
Wilder-Molina wasn't great, either, averaging 678k.
Those are not good numbers.
His fight with Duhaupas had rather modest ratings for a PBC show with somethign like 2.365 million average.
And the Duhaupas fight didn't produce great ratings on NBC, but who the hell is Duhaupas? That was seen as a mismatch against an unknown foreigner going into it. There are UFC on FOX cards that do close to those ratings that are loaded.
Example being UFC on Fox 16 did 2.29 million viewers (T.J. Dillashaw vs. Ranan Barao).
UFC on Fox 17 did 2.28 million viewers (Rafael dos Anjos vs Donald Cerrone). The final number was 2.8, but that 2.365 million number for Wilder/Duhaupas was a preliminary number alsoLast edited by bballchump11; 03-01-2016, 05:37 PM.
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Originally posted by mathed View PostAnd the Duhaupas fight didn't produce great ratings on NBC, but who the hell is Duhaupas? That was seen as a mismatch against an unknown foreigner going into it. There are UFC on FOX cards that do close to those ratings that are loaded.
people can say whatever they want about pay TV vs free TV, but it doesn't change the fact that PBC's fighters are being seen by a lot more people and therefore will be considered the next generation of stars by the general public.
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boxing is dead in America... People just don't realize it becaise the corpse is still warm..
By 2020 american fighters will be going to Canada, UK, Japan, Russia,mGermany.. Those will be the hotspots for big money fights.. American boxing is going to become a lot like what happened to Japanese mma
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Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View PostThe attendance for Wilder-Szpilka was good but the SHO ratings were awful....it averaged 500k with a peak of 623k.
Wilder-Molina wasn't great, either, averaging 678k.
Those are not good numbers.
His fight with Duhaupas had rather modest ratings for a PBC show with somethign like 2.365 million average.
Wilder can do crowds in Alabama, just like Terence Crawford can do crowds in Omaha...but those aren't big markets with premium ticket prices and it doesn't get the same exposure as a fight in a market like NY or LA.
Wilder did get a good crowd, so we'll see if he can build on the attendance he did against Szpilka...but let's also see how he does against Povetkin.
Getting questionable decisions against Herrera and Peterson doesn't adds an angle to his arc, it just means he's vulnerable. I don't think prospects at 147 are all that great, but you do...that's fine.
Fair enough.
The Molina number was down (Molina wasn't given much of a chance, though actually ending up in a good fight), but Stiverne-Wilder did end up averaging 1.25m viewers (a great number). My guess is Wilder-Povetkin (a bout seen by most logical parties as being a legit even fight) will have a number far closer to Stiverne-Wilder than Wilder-Molina.
With the New York metro area having the highest concentration of Russian/Russian-speaking people in the US, I have no doubt that Wilder-Povetkin at the Barclays Center does massive business.
Lastly, I think people are overselling the "questionable decisions" point; Peterson gave up the first 7 rounds of their fight, and all Herrera did was try to spoil behind his jab. Danny Garcia's prospects at 147, imo, are just fine (the only fighter I don't have him beating right now are Kell Brook, with the possibility of Tim Bradley[let's see how he looks against Pacquiao] and Erroll Spence Jr[depending on how he develops] joining that list)
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