That HBO card was Doo Doo!

[R_Walken]

I'm just watching it now, and HBo is borderline dog sh.it as far as match ups so far for the first 1/3 of the year

Take away the PPvs and they have

Kov/Pascal
Crawford / Lundy
Ortiz/ Thompson
Ali/Vargas
Ward / Barrera
GGG / Wade
Verijo & Chicolito showcase fights

There seems to be 1 evenly matched competitive match up ( Ali/Vargas ) the rest are basically showcases. HBO is falling fast from the premier boxing channel but they do a great job at selling stories.

I bet if you compared showtime /HBo in the last 4-6 months that's showtime would have the better match ups and that's not even including the PBC.

[-DSG-]

I'm just really burnt out on boxing at the moment. I'm not excited by the landscape at all as it stands right now. When I got into boxing (only recently...2013), there seemed like so much to be excited about. I felt like both sides (Showtime and HBO) were putting on quality cards. Now we're getting what seem to me to be very low quality fights everywhere around the board. I also felt like Floyd and Manny, love em or hate em (and I've loved and hated them both at various times) brought excitement; their fights were like the big "playoff game" type moments in the boxing year. Now one's gone and the other is likely to lose and then retire. I just don't care about Crawford vs. no hopers and the entirety of the PBC. It's junk. There are still "can't miss" fighters like Canelo, GGG, Cotto, but it's not much. I was utterly bored by everything that was on today, and maybe it's just me :/. I am disappointed that I feel this way, because I've been super into boxing for the past couple years.

I feel your pain I became a hardcore fan in 07 which was another great year for boxing hopefully things pick up soon.

[Rich2123]

Lol but I thought PBC was done?

HBO's budget cuts doesn't mean PBC will be successful. It wouldn't shock me if the PBC folds and HBO gets out of the boxing business.

[-DSG-]

HBO's budget cuts doesn't mean PBC will be successful. It wouldn't shock me if the PBC folds and HBO gets out of the boxing business.

True but it's funny how people were speculating on PBC folding and it's HBO who is having the budget issues right now.

[Rich2123]

True but it's funny how people were speculating on PBC folding and it's HBO who is having the budget issues right now.

HBO is having budget issues, Time Warner is cutting back. But PBC has cut their schedule back like crazy as well. Both things can be true.

[Pigeons]

True but it's funny how people were speculating on PBC folding and it's HBO who is having the budget issues right now.

HBO has their reputation to fall back on though. Regardless of the crap they put on their channel, they are still able to draw 1M+ for their main events. PBC struggles to hit a million for any show that isn't on CBS, NBC, or FOX. Granted PBC ratings are for the entire show, while HBO breaks their ratings down per fight. I'm interested in seeing how HBO did tonight with SHO counter-programming with LSC-Martinez/Ceja-Ruiz II.

LSC-Mares/Ceja-Ruiz I did 1.2M on ESPN last year. We'll see where they end up with this SHO broadcast.

[El Gitano]

I'm just really burnt out on boxing at the moment. I'm not excited by the landscape at all as it stands right now. When I got into boxing (only recently...2013), there seemed like so much to be excited about. I felt like both sides (Showtime and HBO) were putting on quality cards. Now we're getting what seem to me to be very low quality fights everywhere around the board. I also felt like Floyd and Manny, love em or hate em (and I've loved and hated them both at various times) brought excitement; their fights were like the big "playoff game" type moments in the boxing year. Now one's gone and the other is likely to lose and then retire. I just don't care about Crawford vs. no hopers and the entirety of the PBC. It's junk. There are still "can't miss" fighters like Canelo, GGG, Cotto, but it's not much. I was utterly bored by everything that was on today, and maybe it's just me :/. I am disappointed that I feel this way, because I've been super into boxing for the past couple years.

I feel the same, I became a hardcore fan in 2000. That year, we had:

Barrera/Morales 1
De La Hoya/Mosley 1
Vargas/Trinidad

I didn't bother watching tonight's fights.

[Scipio2009]

HBO is having budget issues, Time Warner is cutting back. But PBC has cut their schedule back like crazy as well. Both things can be true.

It's only February; PBC put on over 40 fight cards, March-December, in Yr 1.

Excluding any fight cards for Showtime, there are already 9 fight cards booked for PBC. As the calendar fills in, your parallel becomes less and less true.

[El-blanco]

It's only February; PBC put on over 40 fight cards, March-December, in Yr 1.

Excluding any fight cards for Showtime, there are already 9 fight cards booked for PBC. As the calendar fills in, your parallel becomes less and less true.

Give it up Phaggot

[_original_]

I'm just really burnt out on boxing at the moment. I'm not excited by the landscape at all as it stands right now. When I got into boxing (only recently...2013), there seemed like so much to be excited about. I felt like both sides (Showtime and HBO) were putting on quality cards. Now we're getting what seem to me to be very low quality fights everywhere around the board. I also felt like Floyd and Manny, love em or hate em (and I've loved and hated them both at various times) brought excitement; their fights were like the big "playoff game" type moments in the boxing year. Now one's gone and the other is likely to lose and then retire. I just don't care about Crawford vs. no hopers and the entirety of the PBC. It's junk. There are still "can't miss" fighters like Canelo, GGG, Cotto, but it's not much. I was utterly bored by everything that was on today, and maybe it's just me :/. I am disappointed that I feel this way, because I've been super into boxing for the past couple years.

As somebody who has been a fan over 10 years longer than you, I completely agree with what you just posted.