Comments Thread For: Farhood: If Khan is KO'd By Canelo, He's Not A-Side With Brook

[SalimShady1212]

What a load of nonsense, everyone is expecting Khan to get knocked out. Hardly any real significance unless it's a blowout (which many also expect).

[PivotandRoll]

Flawed logic again man. Conveniently omit the fact that Porter got a draw with Julio Diaz and in fact most people thought Diaz beat Porter. So Brook just beat a guy that Diaz already beat anyway. He followed Diaz game plan + threw in excessive clinching. Watch Diaz vs Porter 1 to see what I mean.

Porter vs Alexander was a close fight as was Porter vs Brook which was a majority decision - one judge had a Draw. That one Porter win Brook is riding off is overrated and it's old news. Khan has only fought 4 opponents above 140 and overall he's fought better fighters than Brook even at 147 alone, and Brook has fought at 147 his whole career. Think about that for a second.

Khan's 4 opponents above 140 = Diaz, Collazo, Algieri, Alexander.
Brook's best opponents at 147 = Porter, Jones. He's had 35 fights and he hasn't fought as many decent fighters as Khan has at 147 in only 4 fights. Think about it..

Khan has the potential to be one of the best but he hasn't proven it yet because Floyd, Pacquiao, Marquez + Bradley all avoided him. He can't force the perceived best guys to fight him but if they had, win or lose, they would have all been entertaining fights. Ultimately boxing lost in the end by those fights not happening.

Some of these keyboard warriors have been hating Khan at the expense of actually watching some exciting, entertaining match ups in boxing, it's pretty ridiculous and I'm convinced at this point that they're afraid Khan could actually win which is something they'd rather not witness. I mean if they hated Khan that much, and believed he was garbage, then why not support the match up just to watch him lose and fail miserably?

Lol.. Exactly. It's because they know he actually has a chance of winning against all those guys and they want to avoid that at all costs.

Yes and Khan has been knocked out twice...Are you seriously this brain dead or is that actually you Amir and you can't accept that Danny Garcia is better than you. He him with a left hook and knocked him out. Excuses are your inability that Khan is not a top WW.

All of the opponents you named for Khan are career 140 pounders...Porter Vs Alexander was not close you lying scumbag and anyone decent can beat him up. Yes he can force them to fight him , He can win the WW titles like I mentioned earlier you spastic fool. Your boy is cashing out because he knows what's up.

What are you gonna do after Khan gets Knocked out by Canelo? Be honest...Say the size was too much, then when he fights Brook and gets beaten you'll say he was damaged goods and past his best. You are sad.

[FlatLine]

Yes and Khan has been knocked out twice...Are you seriously this brain dead or is that actually you Amir and you can't accept that Danny Garcia is better than you. He him with a left hook and knocked him out. Excuses are your inability that Khan is not a top WW.

All of the opponents you named for Khan are career 140 pounders...Porter Vs Alexander was not close you lying scumbag and anyone decent can beat him up. Yes he can force them to fight him , He can win the WW titles like I mentioned earlier you spastic fool. Your boy is cashing out because he knows what's up.

What are you gonna do after Khan gets Knocked out by Canelo? Be honest...Say the size was too much, then when he fights Brook and gets beaten you'll say he was damaged goods and past his best. You are sad.

lol.. What? Collazo has never fought as low as 140, and in fact he fought once at 158 in the middle of his career.

Alexander had been fighting at 147 for 2 years by the time Khan fought him, because he couldn't make 140 anymore.

Diaz hadn't fought at 140 since 2010! Khan fought him in 2013.

And Algieri has only ever had one fight at 140 in his entire career, against Provo, all the rest of his fights are over 140. Lol..

So what are you talking about exactly? Again just like I said earlier, you're just making stuff up living in some fantasy world, like these haters always do.. Why you guys keep doing that?

Now are you aware Manny got knocked out 2 times before Marquez knocked him out for the third time?

Do you know Wladimir got knocked out in his 24th fight, in his 41st fight and in his 44th fight?

I could go on with loads of examples of highly rated boxers who got knocked out at various points in their careers, early, mid, late, but it's clearly going to go over your head. You've said enough to demonstrate that already.

But I recently heard that Frampton got knocked out in sparring while wearing headgear too? So, what, Frampton is garbage now, that's what you're saying? lol...

[Adamjr91]

There is no realistic scenario where I can see Brook being the A-side in a fight against Khan.

I read a post that stated in support of Brook being the A-side, 'If Khan and Brook fought in England, 80% of people would turn out to see Khan lose'. I agree. It's similar to when Mayweather turns up to fight.

[PivotandRoll]

lol.. What? Collazo has never fought as low as 140, and in fact he fought once at 158 in the middle of his career.

Alexander had been fighting at 147 for 2 years by the time Khan fought him, because he couldn't make 140 anymore.

Diaz hadn't fought at 140 since 2010! Khan fought him in 2013.

And Algieri has only ever had one fight at 140 in his entire career, against Provo, all the rest of his fights are over 140. Lol..

So what are you talking about exactly? Again just like I said earlier, you're just making stuff up living in some fantasy world, like these haters always do.. Why you guys keep doing that?

Now are you aware Manny got knocked out 2 times before Marquez knocked him out for the third time?

Do you know Wladimir got knocked out in his 24th fight, in his 41st fight and in his 44th fight?

I could go on with loads of examples of highly rated boxers who got knocked out at various points in their careers, early, mid, late, but it's clearly going to go over your head. You've said enough to demonstrate that already.

But I recently heard that Frampton got knocked out in sparring while wearing headgear too? So, what, Frampton is garbage now, that's what you're saying? lol...

Okay so I was wrong about Collazo and Algeri weights...Hardly matters to the point when I had Algeri winning and Collazo's best win is a washed up Victor Ortiz.

Okay give me more examples then...I want all you got. Because I would argue that in fact they are the exception to the rule. Nothing anyone who is dumb enough to be a fan of Amir Khan as you are could say something that goes over my head.

And yes, if Frampton got beat up and knocked out by someone in sparring then yes if should be taken into account when judging him as a fighter of course.

I'm talking about the fact that Amir Khan is not a Top five WW, and has no title and no right to dictate any terms in boxing other than his ability to draw which hasn't been tested in a while. I talking about the fact that he has no signature wins and that people like you try to write off his losses as if they don't matter like "oh Khan was beating up Garcia blah blah" yes he was landing more punches until the predictable idiot lumped in the same way he had 30 times already and got timed..That's not luck, it's an inherent flaw in his fighting style that he hasn't fixed and the fact that his reflexes are terrible.

Believe me if Frampton had been knocked out and down as many times as Khan has I wouldn't be saying he deserves a fight with Rigondeaux lol

[PivotandRoll]

lol.. What? Collazo has never fought as low as 140, and in fact he fought once at 158 in the middle of his career.

Alexander had been fighting at 147 for 2 years by the time Khan fought him, because he couldn't make 140 anymore.

Diaz hadn't fought at 140 since 2010! Khan fought him in 2013.

And Algieri has only ever had one fight at 140 in his entire career, against Provo, all the rest of his fights are over 140. Lol..

So what are you talking about exactly? Again just like I said earlier, you're just making stuff up living in some fantasy world, like these haters always do.. Why you guys keep doing that?

Now are you aware Manny got knocked out 2 times before Marquez knocked him out for the third time?

Do you know Wladimir got knocked out in his 24th fight, in his 41st fight and in his 44th fight?

I could go on with loads of examples of highly rated boxers who got knocked out at various points in their careers, early, mid, late, but it's clearly going to go over your head. You've said enough to demonstrate that already.

But I recently heard that Frampton got knocked out in sparring while wearing headgear too? So, what, Frampton is garbage now, that's what you're saying? lol...

Now see the difference? I made an honest mistake and admitted it regarding Collazo and Algeri despite it's irrelevance to the argument. But you will keep the delusions going forever because you are in love with the man.

[thack]

The only frustration here is how ole glass jaw was able to con himself in to this ridiculous fight , it can only be based on the exposure Khan got from his knock out losses, unless it was that life and death fight with Algieri or maybe when monster punching Willie Limond decked him or when Michael Gomez floored him .....take your pick there's plenty more and thankfully more to come.

Canelo and Oscar are to blame here and they show how little confidence they have in themselves.As much as I see Khan as being the clown he is, not for one minute do I blame him for taking the money but these catchweight fights are now too often and are ruining the sport.I doubt even if Oscars plans go to order you will ever see Canelo fight GGG at full middleweight he knows he's just a fat super welter.

If Khan goes well here beyond the halfway mark and doesn't do his dance it could well be he's the 'A' side as Kell is doing nothing and at this stage needs the fight more than Khan ........can you imagine that .

[techliam]

If khan gets KO'd, the fight isnt a Wembley Stadium type fight anymore. Itd just be a domestic dust up with a title, not the British super-fight it could be right now

I'm sure Khan's management know this, which makes it all so bizarre. Anyone who thinks Khan/Brook is gonna be a PPV sellout after a Khan knockout really is mistaken. I really doubt Khan could recover from a 3rd knockout

[FlatLine]

Okay so I was wrong about Collazo and Algeri weights...Hardly matters to the point when I had Algeri winning and Collazo's best win is a washed up Victor Ortiz.

Okay give me more examples then...I want all you got. Because I would argue that in fact they are the exception to the rule. Nothing anyone who is dumb enough to be a fan of Amir Khan as you are could say something that goes over my head.

And yes, if Frampton got beat up and knocked out by someone in sparring then yes if should be taken into account when judging him as a fighter of course.

I'm talking about the fact that Amir Khan is not a Top five WW, and has no title and no right to dictate any terms in boxing other than his ability to draw which hasn't been tested in a while. I talking about the fact that he has no signature wins and that people like you try to write off his losses as if they don't matter like "oh Khan was beating up Garcia blah blah" yes he was landing more punches until the predictable idiot lumped in the same way he had 30 times already and got timed..That's not luck, it's an inherent flaw in his fighting style that he hasn't fixed and the fact that his reflexes are terrible.

Believe me if Frampton had been knocked out and down as many times as Khan has I wouldn't be saying he deserves a fight with Rigondeaux lol

Frampton got knocked down what 2 times in his last fight alone and knocked out in sparring while wearing headgear.. Who knows how many more times behind the scenes? lol..

Anyway, to your point about the Garcia fight. I agree as I've said several times before, Khan's performance in that fight was terrible. He was beating Garcia in the first few rounds, but even those rounds were terrible in my opinion like I've said all along.

Even though he won the first few rounds easy, he was throwing the same jab/uppercut combo from round one and became entirely predictable very early on. Same combo that Garcia timed him with the first knock down - the jab and the uppercut. He threw that combo repeatedly in sparring against a Russian middleweight before the Garcia fight, and he was getting tagged continuously because it was so predictable. When I saw that sparring footage before the fight, I knew something was up... So now why did he keep throwing the same damn combo?

Did you know that Khan trained himself for about 65% of the Garcia camp because Roach was in the Philippines training Pacquiao for the Bradley fight? Khan's trainer wasn't even in the same country as him! The only person who was with Khan for a lot of the camp was his strength coach at the time, Ruben, who knows nothing about boxing. Khan trained himself, and his trainer wasn't there to spot and correct his mistakes. He fell in love with that ridiculous combo in sparring, used it repeatedly in the fight and became extremely predictable. If you notice since then, he hardly ever throws that combo now, I've only seen him do it once.

That's why he left Roach after that fight because Roach didn't fulfil his trainer's contract which specifically stated that training should take place in Wildcard Gym for any Khan bout. Instead he flew off to the Philippines to train Pacquiao for the first Bradley fight. That's the reality of what happened. Khan trained himself for most of the Garcia camp and that will almost always backfire on any boxer because you need a trainer to correct mistakes in camp.

[Ray*]

There is no realistic scenario where I can see Brook being the A-side in a fight against Khan.

I read a post that stated in support of Brook being the A-side, 'If Khan and Brook fought in England, 80% of people would turn out to see Khan lose'. I agree. It's similar to when Mayweather turns up to fight.

I dont think some people in boxing understand how the boxing market works, they think because one guy is hated by them and he has being KTFO before it = B-side, I think Team Brook themselves knows that fighting Khan in the next 3/4 fights = them being the B-side, its the body of work that Khan has that has made him the A-side and being the a-side is not just restricted to ring performance........For the record i have Brook beating Khan in the ring, But outside of it Khan takes him to the cleaners at the table everyday all day over the next 2 years.