ESPN First Take debaters talk Mayweather/Pacquiao/Golovkin

[hugh grant]

you deleted the post well before Pac beat any of them so stop lying. You posted it because you hate Floyd and ******ly assumed he wouldn't fight them. Then when he did and beat them, you switched up.

You have no credibility whatsoever.

You desperately want Floyd to lose and you get so caught up you allow yourself to act irrationally, like a pre pubescent girl.

Floyd did what you asked. Now be a man and do what you posted you would.

I've not deleted any posts so don't know where you going there. If I said beating a past prime SSM, and dlh would make you an atg most people would assume I should be in an asdylum. Why don't you assume that as well?

[The Big Dunn]

I've not deleted any posts so don't know where you going there. If I said beating a past prime SSM, and dlh would make you an atg most people would assume I should be in an asdylum. Why don't you assume that as well?

You got caught because a couple posters sigged it before you deleted it. Man you have no credibility.

You hate Floyd, you are desperate to see him lose, he's beaten everyone you said he needed to, know you latch on to GGG because Floyd retired undefeated. Should he beat GGG, you'll do your usual.

GTFOH!

[ИATAS]

You're saying GGG only respects a Win at 160 which is why he didn't take the first 155 Lineal belt?

The lineal 155 pound belt lmao

And why are you acting like Canelo offered him a fight in the first place? There was no offer at any weight from Canelo, they (Canelo/Golden Boy) wanted an extension from the get go. He and his team have talked to the media about potentially fighting at 155 pounds in the future, but don't confuse that with offering a fight, that's media talk. Likewise Golovkin & his team have talked to the media about not taking a catchweight, but again this is media talk and when the time comes for both sides to actually sit down and negotiate a contract, when push comes to shove I'm sure both sides are willing to work things out (i.e perhaps Golovkin will go down a couple pounds and Canelo goes up a couple pounds).

GGG could've said, "I beat Canelo and everybody saw that I went through that diva demand at 155. I wanted to fight Floyd at 154 because he was going to retire and I wanted to fight the #1 p4p boxer in the world as I've always had respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr. That opportunity never happened so I fight Canelo for lineal you know this is boxing, juss, 154-168 is easy for me jusss this is is boxing you know." -GGG

See above. Canelo/GB have only worked out an extension with GGG/K2 and the WBC, they have not even attempted to fight Golovkin yet.

[hugh grant]

You got caught because a couple posters sigged it before you deleted it. Man you have no credibility.

You hate Floyd, you are desperate to see him lose, he's beaten everyone you said he needed to, know you latch on to GGG because Floyd retired undefeated. Should he beat GGG, you'll do your usual.

GTFOH!

Floyd knows me. I'm a fan of his, he knows that. I want to see the matchup it would be very interesting to see someone take GGG 12 rounds.....Floyd is the man to do that.

I want Floyd to reach his latent potential. If he can last 12 rounds it would be criminal not to show that to the world

[Lester Tutor]

I'm surprised people keep asking this question when the answer is so obvious - Floyd is a natural WW and would enter the ring at around 150lbs, Canelo is a natural MW and would weigh around 175 on fight night.

What weight did Floyd fight De La Hoya? What year was that? What weight did Floyd fight Cotto?

personally I don't care about theories of what fighters would rehydrate to on fight night. I mean sure it's interesting, but I prefer circumstances from previous p4p examples. If the fighter is CAPABLE of making the weight, even when A sides is supposedly the diva, more power to them. Nothing more than the politics of the catch. People criticized the Pac vs Cotto or Margo fights and gave Pac those weight division wins as bonafide...

Do I agree with the 155 catch for the Middleweight bout against GGG? No. Makes Nelo a super diva. Do I agree with the 155 against Khan. Yes. Actually it would help Khan. I foresee Khan getting KTFO. However, I do have a problem when another star in the same division saying for the past 3 years that 154-168 is easy and doesn't take prize fighting seriously when supposedly you're the high favorite to beat whoever. So GGG can't or won't lose 5 pounds for Canelo but 6 pounds for Floyd? gtfoh. The basically translation is like picking on the smaller man and taking more money. No different than Bhop had wanted Floyd at 160.

GGG should've stolen the Lineal already, meaning agreed to 155. Will the mandatory finalization be at 155 upcoming? Nobody knows. Let's see who agrees to what when that time comes. If it's 160, Canelo will have everybody on check. If it's 158 or 159 will people still complain about those two differential pounds pre limit?

[SterlingStained]

[SterlingStained]

[kafkod]

if GGG truly believes he could beat Floyd at 154, then why not steal the lineal from Canelo at 155? Isn't that common sense as the perception that Canelo is inferior to Floyd? Is Canelo not worth the money?

Therefore, GGG wouldn't be able to beat Floyd, just wants the exposure and $$$ from listening to Abel and Loeffler. Oh wait a minute, its Abel and Loeffler always talking on GGGs behalf.

What weight did Floyd fight De La Hoya? What year was that? What weight did Floyd fight Cotto?

personally I don't care about theories of what fighters would rehydrate to on fight night. I mean sure it's interesting, but I prefer circumstances from previous p4p examples. If the fighter is CAPABLE of making the weight, even when A sides is supposedly the diva, more power to them. Nothing more than the politics of the catch. People criticized the Pac vs Cotto or Margo fights and gave Pac those weight division wins as bonafide...

Do I agree with the 155 catch for the Middleweight bout against GGG? No. Makes Nelo a super diva. Do I agree with the 155 against Khan. Yes. Actually it would help Khan. I foresee Khan getting KTFO. However, I do have a problem when another star in the same division saying for the past 3 years that 154-168 is easy and doesn't take prize fighting seriously when supposedly you're the high favorite to beat whoever. So GGG can't or won't lose 5 pounds for Canelo but 6 pounds for Floyd? gtfoh. The basically translation is like picking on the smaller man and taking more money. No different than Bhop had wanted Floyd at 160.

GGG should've stolen the Lineal already, meaning agreed to 155. Will the mandatory finalization be at 155 upcoming? Nobody knows. Let's see who agrees to what when that time comes. If it's 160, Canelo will have everybody on check. If it's 158 or 159 will people still complain about those two differential pounds pre limit?

Forget all that guff you are spouting there.

Floyd weighs about 150/155 on fight night, Canelo weighs about 175 and Golovkin weighs about 170.

If those stats themselves don't tell you why GGG would go to 154 for Floyd but not 155 for Canelo, then there really is no point me trying to explain it to you.

It's the same reason why Ward would have gone to 160 for Floyd but wouldn't do 164 for Golovkin.

[RussB23]

The only fighter they talk about is floyd lol.

[RussB23]

Floyd knows me. I'm a fan of his, he knows that. I want to see the matchup it would be very interesting to see someone take GGG 12 rounds.....Floyd is the man to do that.

I want Floyd to reach his latent potential. If he can last 12 rounds it would be criminal not to show that to the world

Maybe after that he can move up to 175 and fight kovalev too? Would you like that?