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  • Dr Cynical
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    #31
    Originally posted by ChrististheAnswer
    James Toney is a tremendous fighter, but he does have weight issues. However he has gotten down to about 220-225 for the Booker fight. He is also a talker but he brings personality and excitement to the sport. Plus I met him and he was very personable and nice to me.

    James Toney is the second most talented HW in the division.
    Could someone please tell me what makes him a good fighter?
    Cause I just see a overweight boxer who by gluttony, got into the heavyweight division and beat up an old, past his prime cruiserweight.

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    • ChrististheAnswer
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dr_Cynical
      Could someone please tell me what makes him a good fighter?
      Cause I just see a overweight boxer who by gluttony, got into the heavyweight division and beat up an old, past his prime cruiserweight.
      The man has tremendous defense, quick hands, and he throws great combinations. Now granted he did beat an old Holyfield, he also beat Vassily Jirov in his fight previous to that. Jirov is a great fighter and Toney beat him. Toney went to heavyweight because the money is there and the division is average.

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      • doomeddisciple
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        #33
        He's at least SOMETHING to look at in the HW division.

        Its so devoid of thrills, skills or anything else "ill" except "Spills" becuase every fight I find myself spilling my beer or bongwater in disgust at the frustrating bollocks that passes for a HW fight these days!

        Toney brings spark, some much needed personality - The rest of the division could surely use some of his personality - But in general he at least brings a few questions to the table that are actually COMPELLING in a division that needs some fire breathing to wake it up.

        I mean who cares about the possible match ups of Golota Ruiz Klistcko and Brewster? Vitali is the most exciting of those 4, and god damn its a sad day when you measure excitement on a guy who's style was learned from watching Ali do Frankenstein impersonations of George Foreman...

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        • NichtGeflechten
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          #34
          I really love James Tubby. I think every bad situation comedy should have a character that resembles him......either that or the orangutan from the Clint Eastwood flicks.

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          • Neuraxis
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            #35
            No fighting Booker speaks for itself.

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            • hollister
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              #36
              I'll bet Eastwood's orangutan would knock him out.

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              • Dr Cynical
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                #37
                Originally posted by ChrististheAnswer
                The man has tremendous defense, quick hands, and he throws great combinations. Now granted he did beat an old Holyfield, he also beat Vassily Jirov in his fight previous to that. Jirov is a great fighter and Toney beat him. Toney went to heavyweight because the money is there and the division is average.
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jirov have problems with Mesi and lose to Mesi?

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                • Dr Cynical
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hollister
                  I'll bet Eastwood's orangutan would knock him out.
                  He could but won't.
                  Toney's face would scare it away and if it didn't Toney would eventually eat the poor thing.

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                  • grayfist
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                    #39
                    It's exciting to see "Lights Out!" having come out of the dark lit up like an ambulatory neon sign! The scowl has not frequented his face that much since 2003 when he was awarded by THE RING two principal awards: BOXER OF THE YEAR and COMEBACK FIGHTER OF THE YEAR-- the first in the magazine's long, long history! Promoter Dan Goosen has been credited for Toney's second coming, but, I'd say the credit goes to James himself. His problem had always been mental; it looks like he's gone past that for good. What he faces now is his physical, aka, weight problems, but if he stays in the right frame of mind, he'll be able to surmount that as well. It's difficult to see how James can miss if he keeps that mental thing going. His defense is a must-see for students of the boxing art and his victims could sign testimonials on how much power he packs. A Roy Jones, at his peak, taught Toney a lesson or two, lessons that James appears to have parlayed to his advantage. He may not be the best Heavy there is out there (it's tough for me to categorically say he is or not at this time), but I would neiter turn the lights off on a Toney fight in the foreseeable future nor bet against him. Byrd vs. Toney? Roy vs. Toney II at Heavy somewhere down the road? Won't those be really, really ?! Now, that's looking past Booker. Hope Toney isn't.
                    Last edited by grayfist; 09-20-2004, 01:40 AM.

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                    • TheGreat1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dr_Cynical
                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jirov have problems with Mesi and lose to Mesi?
                      y you people continue to harp on that fight. mesi is undeafted, and a good fighter. jirov was robbed in that fight, he damn near killed mesi in the ring. how could you use that as ammo against toney. toney put jirov on his ass. something big strong mesi couldn't do

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