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  • techliam
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    #51
    Originally posted by tiliheels
    real belt or not..that aint aint an exucse..fortuna fought a ex PR Olympian prospect that had looked damn good except for in 1 round of his entire pro career..

    any ways i hope they reach a deal for the betterment of the sport..and i hope it is in the US..i'd think the champion has earned that much..and i'd also say that bc this ist he stumping ground that ppl want to be on the highest level at
    Wilder hasn't earned anything with the opponents he has faced, lets be honest there. At least Povetkin has a respectable row of opponents, and has blasted them all out. He didn't really earn a 'world championship' either, as Stiverne-Arreola the rematch (this time it's personal) should not have qualified as a vacant title fight (noone in their right minds ranked any of these 2 in the top 5), or should Wilder have been gifted a magical WBC title shot too.

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    • boxinggod101
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      #52
      Originally posted by aldo5408
      And I want povetkin to agree to yearly rabdom olympic style drug testing. Let's see who gets lucky first
      What other fighter as yearly random test?

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      • tiliheels
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        #53
        Originally posted by techliam
        Wilder hasn't earned anything with the opponents he has faced, lets be honest there. At least Povetkin has a respectable row of opponents, and has blasted them all out. He didn't really earn a 'world championship' either, as Stiverne-Arreola the rematch (this time it's personal) should not have qualified as a vacant title fight (noone in their right minds ranked any of these 2 in the top 5), or should Wilder have been gifted a magical WBC title shot too.
        wilder beat 3 top 15 hw's...the same amount povetkin has beaten as well

        wilder put 11k in the barclay...i'd say it is worth coming to the US if u really think u're going to ko him win your first "real" wold title

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        • Sparked_26
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          #54
          The Russians know they have this if it goes to purse bids.

          It would give Wilder a lot of credibility if he goes over there and beats Povetkin. I am not sure how much he has at the moment.

          If Martin beats AJ then he THE American heavyweight. Wilder will be a footnote.

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          • kafkod
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            #55
            Originally posted by tiliheels
            i think you are overlooking history...povetkins ppl and haymon dont have a beef
            roc nation and haymon do have a beef
            duva and haymon do have a beef
            and he still let both purse bids go down
            roc nation won the bid with a TR fighter vs a hymaon guy...tr wouldnt deal with hyamon to make the fight happen just like they wouldnt deal with him with lomo..they just relied on bids
            duva just dropped out due to hbo politics...
            that is not the same as povetkin hearing "i wont go to russia" and saying hey lets act like we are listening, but not listen and outbid at a purse bid to just steal the title and rob the fans of a fight bc we know he doesnt want to come here

            no look i think wilder should go there if the purse is worth it...if not he's risking way to much for povektin..robbery and roids imo...and povetkin cant even offer him a belt...and if povetkin wins the belt u'll see he wont fight any real hw with a pulse..just like he did the last time he had one
            There was no beef between Duva and Haymon. Stevenson just didn't want to fight Kovalev so Haymon used Krusher's HBO exclusive contract to wriggle out of doing it.

            And why the heck should Povetkin give a shit whether Wilder wants to go to Russia or not?

            Is he in boxing to do the best for himself or to make his opponents happy?

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              #56
              Originally posted by Steve plunger
              If I say **** you bob up ok lol

              when you say **** everyone just laughs

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                #57
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Wilder has never done random Olympic style testing since he turned pro.

                There are no drug tests for Wilder's fights except the routine post-fight urine sample that never catches anyone.

                And Manny Pacquiao was exactly the same until when, Rios ?

                Has Wilder refused tests, like Pacquiao did ?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  There was no beef between Duva and Haymon. Stevenson just didn't want to fight Kovalev so Haymon used Krusher's HBO exclusive contract to wriggle out of doing it.

                  And why the heck should Povetkin give a shit whether Wilder wants to go to Russia or not?

                  Is he in boxing to do the best for himself or to make his opponents happy?

                  Right, but the ducked purse bid, and the network fcukery by HBO, which ALL happened AFTER that..... means nothing, right?

                  You remember what suits you, and you purge from memory that which doesn't. A sleazier, greasier, fanboy, will not be found

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                  • tiliheels
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    There was no beef between Duva and Haymon. Stevenson just didn't want to fight Kovalev so Haymon used Krusher's HBO exclusive contract to wriggle out of doing it.

                    And why the heck should Povetkin give a shit whether Wilder wants to go to Russia or not?

                    Is he in boxing to do the best for himself or to make his opponents happy?
                    lol how tf was there not beef but she had a lawsuit against him bc stevenson left for him...and not to mention she talks crap about him for years and then wggles out of a purse bid.
                    like i said earlier when u did not listen "if i was povetkin i'd tell my ppl win the pusre bid and do not deal...bc u get a title without even figthing for it..and then u could fight low level top 15s for huge money in russia/germany"

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                    • kafkod
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by aldo5408
                      And I want povetkin to agree to yearly rabdom olympic style drug testing. Let's see who gets lucky first
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      And Manny Pacquiao was exactly the same until when, Rios ?

                      Has Wilder refused tests, like Pacquiao did ?
                      Don't ask me, you seem to know more about Manny than I do, but I think he was on roids when Ariza was working with him.

                      Wilder has never refused random PED tests because he's never been asked to do them. That's why I don't understand why some people are bleating about the lack of random testing in Russia. USA is no different.

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