Comments Thread For: Wade Vows To Take Chances: I'm Not Scared, I'll Beat Golovkin!

[aboutfkntime]

Kinda odd how you guys left out the part where Chavez jr weighed about 180 pounds in that fight. They didn't air the fight night weight for a reason, he was MASSIVE.

I like how Lee and Lemieux are C level guys now just because "lil g" beat em up. Lemieux would spark Lara out with one punch...matter of fact, I hope that Lara does move up to 160 and faces Lemieux. He should easily smoke him since he is an A+ talent facing the likes of Delvin Rodriguez, Zaveck, and Ishe Smith....a straight killers row.

You're dreaming.

The reality is, Golovkin's best win would likely be beaten by a JMW who Golovkin will not fight.

There is no way to spin that.

[OnePunch]

I have no problem at all with ggg fighting Wade. But I have a problem with him trying to break bhops record fighting C fighters. And that knockdown was more of him falling then anything... And when the cards were read Wade got boos.

But I'm glad you have Wade as the baddest dude in the olabet. You gtards sure like to polish the tomato cans he beats up on.

Why? Its not like Hops defenses were all against murderers row or anything. Have you forgotten Robert Allen 3 friggin times, Andrew Council, Morrade Hakkar, Steve Frank, Joe Lipsey, Echols twice, Syd Vandrpool, etc etc lol

[King_]

Very tough opponent. I think Wade has a very good chance to beat anyone at 160 not named Gennady Golovkin.

Slick, tough, good chin, undefeated, it doesn't get much better then that.

I think Wade would of punished the Cotto that showed up against Canelo, after watching some videos.

With that said, easy work GGG, yet again. Add another undefeated fighter in his prime to GGGs list of victims. I just hope Canelo grows a pair and takes the fight next. Him and Jacobs are too of the biggest ducks in the sport. (Jacobs at least admitted he wasn't ready for GGG before so he can get the benefit of the doubt here)

[SteveM]

If Golovkin could crack the SMW top 5, then why doesn't he ?

See how that works ?

The question was, IF Lara moved up.

Again, there is no way to spin that.

Whether you agree with it or not, everyone knows what Golovkin's mission is. His whole team has said unifying takes precedence but if there is a money fight at 168 they will take it. That is very clear. Given how weak I think the SMW division is then I'm pretty sure Golovkin could at least establish himself in the top 5. Golovkin has been linked with Groves, BHop, Froch and Ward and DeGale in the last few months and Chavez before the Fonfara debacle.

Not sure even Lara knows what is mission is apart from make money fights against whoever. It's left for his fans like you to call out Golovkin on his behalf because he hardly speaks. Lara has been linked with just Golovkin at MW.

Which one is more serious about eventually moving up?

[SteveM]

Very tough opponent. I think Wade has a very good chance to beat anyone at 160 not named Gennady Golovkin.

Slick, tough, good chin, undefeated, it doesn't get much better then that.

I think Wade would of punished the Cotto that showed up against Canelo, after watching some videos.

With that said, easy work GGG, yet again. Add another undefeated fighter in his prime to GGGs list of victims. I just hope Canelo grows a pair and takes the fight next. Him and Jacobs are too of the biggest ducks in the sport. (Jacobs at least admitted he wasn't ready for GGG before so he can get the benefit of the doubt here)

Anytime a fighter is still learning the trade, or maybe coming back from a long layoff I can take on board "not ready for him yet" but I pretty sure Jacobs doesn't fall into that category.
Lets see if the dodgy WBA forces regular and super champions to unify at MW - hint, they'll be looking at Jacob's match-making to see how lucrative it is.

Don't see Wade the same way as you do.

[doninlouisiana]

Probably #13-15. It is a sht division when Ex-139lbers are Ranked #2 and #3.

Heck Lara would probably make the Top #5 if he fought at MW. And Khan would make the Top #10 list...

Remember the beating Chavez gave Lee?? Did you see the Lee/Saunders fight??? Man it was TERRIBLE!!! like watching two blind dudes fight without arms or legs!

Man you're right about how sad the MW & HW divisions have become, the promoters that have let the fight game go downhill. Man I miss the boxing of the 60's, 70's and 80's.......

[aboutfkntime]

Very tough opponent. I think Wade has a very good chance to beat anyone at 160 not named Gennady Golovkin.

Slick, tough, good chin, undefeated, it doesn't get much better then that.

I think Wade would of punished the Cotto that showed up against Canelo, after watching some videos.

With that said, easy work GGG, yet again. Add another undefeated fighter in his prime to GGGs list of victims. I just hope Canelo grows a pair and takes the fight next. Him and Jacobs are too of the biggest ducks in the sport. (Jacobs at least admitted he wasn't ready for GGG before so he can get the benefit of the doubt here)

He is obviously not in his prime.

He is clearly not ready for this level of competition.

You had to watch some videos to even know who he is.

[aboutfkntime]

Whether you agree with it or not, everyone knows what Golovkin's mission is. His whole team has said unifying takes precedence but if there is a money fight at 168 they will take it. That is very clear. Given how weak I think the SMW division is then I'm pretty sure Golovkin could at least establish himself in the top 5. Golovkin has been linked with Groves, BHop, Froch and Ward and DeGale in the last few months and Chavez before the Fonfara debacle.

Not sure even Lara knows what is mission is apart from make money fights against whoever. It's left for his fans like you to call out Golovkin on his behalf because he hardly speaks. Lara has been linked with just Golovkin at MW.

Which one is more serious about eventually moving up?

I agree, Golovkin likely could, at 168.

Just as Lara likely could, at 160.

But Golovkin aint moving to 168, no way.

He won't fight Lara/Canelo, so I think most of the 168 talk is all bull****.

They would have fought Chavez, maybe Chudinov, and most likely Hopkins..... not sure if I believe that Golovkin would fight anyone else at 168, and no way will he move up at this stage..... SMW is much more challenging than middleweight right now, and Golovkin is clearly one of, if not the most, manufactured risk/reward fighter in the game today.

[SteveM]

I agree, Golovkin likely could, at 168.

Just as Lara likely could, at 160.

But Golovkin aint moving to 168, no way.

He won't fight Lara/Canelo, so I think most of the 168 talk is all bull****.

They would have fought Chavez, maybe Chudinov, and most likely Hopkins..... not sure if I believe that Golovkin would fight anyone else at 168, and no way will he move up at this stage..... SMW is much more challenging than middleweight right now, and Golovkin is clearly one of, if not the most, manufactured risk/reward fighter in the game today.

I should make clear I like watching Lara fight. I love watching slick fighters especially if they engage and punch hard. Chris Eubank was a favorite of mine but then I loved watching Benn as well. God, if only they were still around in th eMW division - Benn jr. has just turned pro. If he and Eubank Jr can have even 3/4 the impact of their famous fathers you won't be calling the MW div poor in a few yesrs time.

Lara could certainly move up and get a belt in the MW division if he was matched correctly. I think he would handle Saunders very easily , or the likes of Lee. I think Andrade could ome up and maybe even J-Rock - but these fighters are being managed very badly. They don't realise that a boxer's absolute prime is maybe only 5-6 years.

I disagree that Golovkin is manufactured. But there is certainly a lot of hype around him. The hype is because he looks so destructive against all opponents to date and also that he is unarguably ducked by so many champs in the last few years. Did he duck Ward? Meh! Maybe. It wasn't a clear duck as they are just too far apart in weight. Ward can't make 164 and why should Golovkin jump up to 168 to face a #2 or #3 P4P fighter without tuneups or lesser fights first (Froch/Chavez) etc. Yeah, I know what his team said but that was just ****** words and building the hype a bit.

For what it is worth I see Golovkin as the best managed boxer in boxing, close behind are Canelo, Gonzalez, and Joshua. Paul Smith management doing a great job too - how on earth has he got a fight against Abraham twice, Ward and now talk of anothe rtitle shot at Sturm.

Worst managed fighter - Rigo, without doubt. Also Andrade very high on list.

[aboutfkntime]

I should make clear I like watching Lara fight. I love watching slick fighters especially if they engage and punch hard. Chris Eubank was a favorite of mine but then I loved watching Benn as well. God, if only they were still around in th eMW division - Benn jr. has just turned pro. If he and Eubank Jr can have even 3/4 the impact of their famous fathers you won't be calling the MW div poor in a few yesrs time.

Lara could certainly move up and get a belt in the MW division if he was matched correctly. I think he would handle Saunders very easily , or the likes of Lee. I think Andrade could ome up and maybe even J-Rock - but these fighters are being managed very badly. They don't realise that a boxer's absolute prime is maybe only 5-6 years.

I disagree that Golovkin is manufactured. But there is certainly a lot of hype around him. The hype is because he looks so destructive against all opponents to date and also that he is unarguably ducked by so many champs in the last few years. Did he duck Ward? Meh! Maybe. It wasn't a clear duck as they are just too far apart in weight. Ward can't make 164 and why should Golovkin jump up to 168 to face a #2 or #3 P4P fighter without tuneups or lesser fights first (Froch/Chavez) etc. Yeah, I know what his team said but that was just ****** words and building the hype a bit.

For what it is worth I see Golovkin as the best managed boxer in boxing, close behind are Canelo, Gonzalez, and Joshua. Paul Smith management doing a great job too - how on earth has he got a fight against Abraham twice, Ward and now talk of anothe rtitle shot at Sturm.

Worst managed fighter - Rigo, without doubt. Also Andrade very high on list.

Great post Steve, I'm with you on most of that.

But..... manufactured, and well-managed, can be the same thing, or similar.

And being well-managed is not necessarily a bad thing, but it can be.

I see Canelo as being well-managed, but Golovkin as being manufactured.

But I would rather leave it I think, I guess it's a point-of-view thing.

Golovkin is clearly a terrific fighter, I just have a few issues with the lies/marketing strategy that K2 have used. And not only that..... my issue is not Ward - nor even Lara really, although that is up there - my issue is Sergio fkn Mora.

Avoiding Ward was smart, that was good management..... just like Hoya tried to avoid Lara with Canelo..... that is smart work..... boxing is all about styles/matchmaking.

My issue will open a can of worms, and not sure I want to really...... but the VERY BEST opponent for a young-up-and-coming fighter who is trying to establish himself is an ex-champ who has clearly faded..... there is no question about that, that model has been used for decades..... especially back at that point in time, Mora would have been PERFECT !!

But when asked about Mora, Loeffler did EXACTLY THE SAME THING he did with Ward..... he did not supply 1 genuine reason why that fight simply cannot happen..... he provided every excuse in the book.

You do not need to use 27 excuses to avoid Mora, 1 genuine reason is what was required.

If EVER Golovkin was going to fight a mover/spoiler, it should have been Mora, especially at that point in time, Mora would have been perfect.

And no other mover/spoiler got considered either..... Lara/Ward.

The blueprint is clear..... you need to be available to land a Golovkin fight.

THAT, is manufactured, imho..... or protected..... especially considering the wild claims that they made for THREE YEARS.

Golovkin won't even fight everyone at 160, let alone 154, 168.....