When's Lomachenko fighting someone worth a damn?

[soul_survivor]

I think the Salido fight made his team back off a little and try to get more experience before stepping up again.

That's pretty much what I always say. His team saw he wasn't ready for the top, physical pros who could not just out work him but out think him in the pro game.

A lot of race related hate here.

He fought Salido and Russell in 7 pro fights so far. Tell me a fighter with a better resume 7 fights into their pro career.

First off, can we stop mentioning Russell as a top opponent. What was his best win before the Loma fight? What made him anything more than a prospect/fringe contender?

Second, stop saying "Loma has only had 7 fight". The guy is a world title holder and should be fighting world title level opponents. If he didn't wan to be labeled a title holder, he shouldn't have gone after a vacant belt.

[HeroBando]

That's pretty much what I always say. His team saw he wasn't ready for the top, physical pros who could not just out work him but out think him in the pro game.



First off, can we stop mentioning Russell as a top opponent. What was his best win before the Loma fight? What made him anything more than a prospect/fringe contender?

Second, stop saying "Loma has only had 7 fight". The guy is a world title holder and should be fighting world title level opponents. If he didn't wan to be labeled a title holder, he shouldn't have gone after a vacant belt.

Russell was a top prospect just like Loma, and currently probably the best feather.

Loma just beat a titlist who was morally 1-1 against Salido last year. This thread is too moronic to be serious. Surely this is a troll job?

[TheCell8]

He went after 'the most avoided fighter of all time', only to get avoided by said fighter.

[soul_survivor]

Russell was a top prospect just like Loma, and currently probably the best feather.

Loma just beat a titlist who was morally 1-1 against Salido last year. This thread is too moronic to be serious. Surely this is a troll job?

Loma was not a prospect. YOu keep talking without an context. Loma had a long enough and extensive enough amateur career to jump into the pro game at world level. Russel hadn't even fought at world level. There's a difference here. And even if you wana label them both as prospects, your argument still fails cos loma still beat a prospect for a so called world title.

And yes, he beat Martinez, that's good but Martinez is near enough shot and nowhere near the fighter he was when Burns beat him. I applaud the Martinez fight more than the Russell fight though but Loma needs to carry on fighting better opponents.

[soul_survivor]

He went after 'the most avoided fighter of all time', only to get avoided by said fighter.

I can't fault him for calling out Rigo but this isn't about "imaginary fights that could have happened"

[garfios]

Point out the ones who didn't also have terrible fighters on their resume. I didn't think you were actually attempting to compare his first 6 fights with their entire body of work.

Actually he have like 5 or 6 fights in wsb, where he was faced with better competition than the one he is facing now, excluding salido and Russell, those fights count as an experience, no headgear, 4 and 3 minutes rounds, smaller gloves than we they used in the amateurs and the body punch counts, so why no one is mentioning his fights at wsb which were under professional rules, is beyond my understanding, I know the ranking alphabet soups don't count them, but we all know he did fought under pro-rules...

[garfios]

He went after 'the most avoided fighter of all time', only to get avoided by said fighter.

so he called the most avoided fighter, one division down and didn't want any rehydration clause or 124 lbs catch weight...

[HeroBando]

Loma was not a prospect. YOu keep talking without an context. Loma had a long enough and extensive enough amateur career to jump into the pro game at world level. Russel hadn't even fought at world level. There's a difference here. And even if you wana label them both as prospects, your argument still fails cos loma still beat a prospect for a so called world title.

And yes, he beat Martinez, that's good but Martinez is near enough shot and nowhere near the fighter he was when Burns beat him. I applaud the Martinez fight more than the Russell fight though but Loma needs to carry on fighting better opponents.

Russell was also a world class amateur, was prospect of the year 3 fight prior, and now is probably #1 at FW, having demolished the wbc champ. That's a very good win, don't play dumb. A 7 fight streak including Salido, Russell, Rocky is very good for any Fw, nevermind a pro novice. Uchiyama was consensus #1at 130till recent, some had him him p4p. Give me his best 7 fight streak

Rocky just went neck and neck vs Salido for 24 rounds, did about the same as Vargas. Who the fcuk do you think is elite in these weight classes?

[soul_survivor]

Russell was also a world class amateur, was prospect of the year 3 fight prior, and now is probably #1 at FW, having demolished the wbc champ. That's a very good win, don't play dumb. A 7 fight streak including Salido, Russell, Rocky is very good for any Fw, nevermind a pro novice. Uchiyama was consensus #1at 130till recent, some had him him p4p. Give me his best 7 fight streak

Rocky just went neck and neck vs Salido for 24 rounds, did about the same as Vargas. Who the fcuk do you think is elite in these weight classes?

As I keep saying, if you keep wanting to mention Russell, please tell me what top fighters he beat before he faced Loma?

[animelive]

Most fighters in his weight class haven't fought more than a couple good fighters. He is doing fine. He also isn't scared to fight in a higher weight class. Not sure what the argument about not fighting live bodies is. His career is progressing well.