Kiko love for Frampton; But why?

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  • Boxing@2016
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    Kiko love for Frampton; But why?

    In his recent statement about the match between Scott & Frampton on 27th feb, he was well on the side of the man from whom he looses two times in the past. Here is the story & what do you think about this?
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    Well, he lost to Frampton both by KO and by being comprehensively outboxed. He saw more of him.

    In the first round with Quigg, he made him look extremely uncomfortable and a little lost. He then came out and walked into a great shot but his best round against either guy was round 1 vs Quigg.

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      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      Well, he lost to Frampton both by KO and by being comprehensively outboxed. He saw more of him.

      In the first round with Quigg, he made him look extremely uncomfortable and a little lost. He then came out and walked into a great shot but his best round against either guy was round 1 vs Quigg.
      Second Frampton fight was a decision wasn't it?

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        He's a sucker for irish eyes

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          #5
          Originally posted by sunny31
          Second Frampton fight was a decision wasn't it?
          Yep, KO'd him first time and outboxed him comfortably (119-109 for me) second time.

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            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
            Yep, KO'd him first time and outboxed him comfortably (119-109 for me) second time.
            What do you predict? I have gotten really interested in this fight.

            I started reading into the hype recently with a lot of people jumping on the Quigg bandwagon. The general pro Quigg theme is that Frampton is chinny and Quigg has devastating power, and if you watch Quigg-Kiko and some of the other fights where Quigg looks impressive ie. Monroe 2, then you can see why people have this opinion. He has genuine KO power, and can also grind you down to the body and when he gains momentum it is hard to slow him down...BUT

            I didn't just watch those fights, last night I watched Arthur, Salinas, and some other earlier fights and that was pretty revealing and put me very much back in the path of Frampton by stoppage, which was actually my instinctive reaction when the fight was made.

            Quigg has been down against non-punchers and he actually got steadied by a jab from Salinas in the first round, his legs wobbled, its not massively noticeable but I saw it. The whole fight Jim Watt is imploring Quigg to get his workrate up and start attacking Salinas, and you can see that Salinas is there for the taking, I think the reason he doesn't is because of that jab in the first round and his general ability to take a punch. I actually think Quigg is the chinny one, and Frampton hits very hard, he might not be as concussive as Quigg but he has KO power himself.

            My conclusion is that whilst Quigg is dangerous as long as he's there, after what I saw last night Quigg won't be able to take the stick. Neither guy has an airtight defence especially at this kind of level, I just found last night quite alarming and even though both have vulnerable whiskers I think Quigg getting dropped at domestic level multiple times is a warning sign. I think its a bold prediction, my logic tells me that Frampton will stop him within 5 rounds.
            Last edited by sunny31; 02-18-2016, 10:08 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
              Well, he lost to Frampton both by KO and by being comprehensively outboxed. He saw more of him.

              In the first round with Quigg, he made him look extremely uncomfortable and a little lost. He then came out and walked into a great shot but his best round against either guy was round 1 vs Quigg.
              I agree Kiko looked like he was on the way to a victory in the first round.

              I think if Quigg didn't land that great shot it would have been a tough night for him but who knows.

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                #8
                Originally posted by sunny31
                What do you predict? I have gotten really interested in this fight.

                I started reading into the hype recently with a lot of people jumping on the Quigg bandwagon. The general pro Quigg theme is that Frampton is chinny and Quigg has devastating power, and if you watch Quigg-Kiko and some of the other fights where Quigg looks impressive ie. Monroe 2, then you can see why people have this opinion. He has genuine KO power, and can also grind you down to the body and when he gains momentum it is hard to slow him down...BUT

                I didn't just watch those fights, last night I watched Arthur, Salinas, and some other earlier fights and that was pretty revealing and put me very much back in the path of Frampton by stoppage, which was actually my instinctive reaction when the fight was made.

                Quigg has been down against non-punchers and he actually got steadied by a jab from Salinas in the first round, his legs wobbled, its not massively noticeable but I saw it. The whole fight Jim Watt is imploring Quigg to get his workrate up and start attacking Salinas, and you can see that Salinas is there for the taking, I think the reason he doesn't is because of that jab in the first round and his general ability to take a punch. I actually think Quigg is the chinny one, and Frampton hits very hard, he might not be as concussive as Quigg but he has KO power himself.

                My conclusion is that whilst Quigg is dangerous as long as he's there, after what I saw last night Quigg won't be able to take the stick. Neither guy has an airtight defence especially at this kind of level, I just found last night quite alarming and even though both have vulnerable whiskers I think Quigg getting dropped at domestic level multiple times is a warning sign. I think its a bold prediction, my logic tells me that Frampton will stop him within 5 rounds.
                Fantastic post mate, pretty much covered it to a tee.

                My whole thing here is to go by what I've seen and not let the hype cloud my judgment. What I've seen points in the direction of Frampton by wide UD or even stoppage.

                The Kiko knockout has got many a little over estimating Quigg IMO.

                Just looking at the Kiko fights, I saw Quigg look troubled before landing a perfect shot, which Kiko got up from, and finishing the job. I saw Frampton box circles around Kiko in one fight and one punch stop him in the other.

                Frampton has been on the end of flash knockdowns at world level in which he wasn't remotely buzzed, Quigg has been on his back at domestic level...the idea that he's got the better chin is flawed.

                Quigg's only chance is through his size. Frampton is more skilled, faster, more intelligent, more varied and can win in a multitude of ways.

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                  Kiko just thinks Quigg got lucky against him and that he made a mistake of his own. Quigg however recently said that he basically set up a trap for Kiko earlier than he originally planned to, just to see how he would react, and he fell for it straight away which, if true, means that Quigg's boxing ability and gameplanning may be underrated going into this fight. He may have shown signs of improvement in the Kiko fight which he could carry through to the Frampton fight.

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                  • DannYankee
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                    You don't want to see the guy who whipped your bum the worst get whipped himself. That means you got another guy who by the magic of association you are his b*tch.

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