Andre Ward-Like Water

[Boxfan83]

Cant wait til his fight next month...this kid is special and IMO will go down as a hall of famer and a ATG from 168-175

He is a student of the game and I admire his willingness to learn.

Physical things fade but a sharp mind always improves and evolves.

People who dont know much about boxing dont realize its only 20% physical...the mind plays a huge factor and a millisecond of hesistation could result in a missed punch, a knock down, etc.

Ive always liked Ward from day 1 (amateurs) but the only thing I think will knock him from being a true ATG are his terrible business decisions when choosing promoters. Theres no way if I or someone I managed (hypothetically speaking) were a gold medalist in the olympics would I sign with anyone other than Top Rank, GBP, or PBC. All these other promoters either cant get big fights because the big dogs block em or their just to obsessed with selling wolf tickets and making a quick buck...

[daggum]

You need to use that ignore feature with threads like this. TROLL CITY BABY!!! I don't know what it is about Floyd and Ward threads.

But he had Froch off balance all night with that jab.

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yea sorry people point out when ward cheats and clinches. some people still think that's good defense. they just don't care about the rules. what can you do? you think we are just making up that he cheats or something because we hate him? we don't like him cause he cheats. you don't care that he cheats so that's cool but don't pretend like we don't have an argument because we clearly do. its on video!

[-PBP-]

that's called clinching. it's illegal. you can clearly see him wrapping his arms aroudn rodriguez after he throws his jab. doing illegal things does not equal great defense just like a guy who throws low blows does not equal great offense. try to free yourself from the conditioning that you learned that cheating is defense.

Clinching is a part of boxing. It happens. Especially with a guy like Ward that likes to work inside. You can either accept it or you can't. Smothering after landing a punch is smart defense.

[The Problem Child]

Yeah, just as soft.

He is nothing special, just had an extremely overrated tournament run where he beat a bunch of crap fighters who are nowhere to be heard from today. Bika, Green, Kessler, Abraham... all gatekeepers. And his best win was Froch who is extremely overrated IMO, very robotic and stiff. Even this kid whose name I forgot rocked him hard lol.

Ward is a C level fighter. A fake christian, a lying coward. To me the toilet in my bathroom is worth more than his life, that's how highly I think of him.

[ea22]

Clinching is a part of boxing. It happens. Especially with a guy like Ward that likes to work inside. You can either accept it or you can't. Smothering after landing a punch is smart defense.

Sometimes it happens but guys like Ward and Klitschko clearly force the clinches. Even then Ward is too much of a spoiler to be like "water".

[-PBP-]

Sometimes it happens but guys like Ward and Klitschko clearly force the clinches. Even then Ward is too much of a spoiler to be like "water".

"Sometimes it happens"......No..Clinching is a part of boxing. Holyfield/Tyson, Ali/Foreman, Ali/Frazier. It happens.

[therealpugilist]

"Sometimes it happens"......No..Clinching is a part of boxing. Holyfield/Tyson, Ali/Foreman, Ali/Frazier. It happens.

we saw what happened to Hearns versus leonard because of his lack of knowledge on the inside, clinching and working for position


He lost a fight he was clearly winning....he became a better fighter once he learned how to clinch....its a part of the sport, always has been, always will be...seems like the only people who complain about clinching is the people who dont like a fighter who regularly wins, or someone who got beat by some one who utilizes this skill

[therealpugilist]

Yeah, just as soft.

He is nothing special, just had an extremely overrated tournament run where he beat a bunch of crap fighters who are nowhere to be heard from today. Bika, Green, Kessler, Abraham... all gatekeepers. And his best win was Froch who is extremely overrated IMO, very robotic and stiff. Even this kid whose name I forgot rocked him hard lol.

Ward is a C level fighter. A fake christian, a lying coward. To me the toilet in my bathroom is worth more than his life, that's how highly I think of him.

your namesake must be an F level fighter...he is older, with more fights, less title fights, less champions defeated....not those regular/interim belts, gift wrapped elevated belts.

you're not very good at trolling...you only make yourself look bad trashing a fighter who has done more and is more proven than a fighter you d!ckride

[therealpugilist]

Clinching is a part of boxing. It happens. Especially with a guy like Ward that likes to work inside. You can either accept it or you can't. Smothering after landing a punch is smart defense.

too bad most people dont know **** about boxing, even on a so called boxing forum

[therealpugilist]

Andre Ward: Like Wrestling

I guess you missed Khans fights since he left Roach...wrestling and clinching is a part of boxing.


Get over it....learn it, adapt to it and prepare for it or you be prepared to lose fights