So I'm watching this video and Abel says that Canelo has been given another deadline, do you think the fight happens or will Canelo drop the belt or will the WBC find another way to let him keep the belt?
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
May 22nd is the new deadline for Canelo-GGG to make a deal, does it happen?
Collapse
-
May 22nd is the new deadline for Canelo-GGG to make a deal, does it happen?
13They will come to an agreement and fight will take place September 20167.69%1WBC will give GGG the business again61.54%8Canelo will drop the belt30.77%4Tags: None
-
unless canelo agrees to 157/158+ then they should push to have him stripped as soon as possible. he will inevitably outgrow 155 soon, so either he will be forced to fight golovkin on golovkin's turf or will get himself beaten by some random welter due to being drained. jacobs and saunders should be the top targets for GGG and K2 now
-
Comment
-
The "new" deadline, huh. What happened to the last one? And why does it matter really? Canelo will do what Canelo wants to do. GGG can force the belt, but he can't force the fight which is what he and every fan wants to see. I really can't see it happening this year, not with Canelo eyeing the Pacquiao-Bradley winner (I know, I know). I hate to say this but a part of me wants Khan to win so I can witness the ****ery that ensues.
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by NEETzsche View Postunless canelo agrees to 157/158+ then they should push to have him stripped as soon as possible. he will inevitably outgrow 155 soon, so either he will be forced to fight golovkin on golovkin's turf or will get himself beaten by some random welter due to being drained. jacobs and saunders should be the top targets for GGG and K2 now
If GGG gets the belt, Canelo just moves back down to JMW or keeps fighting catchweight fights at 155. GGG continues to fight no names and mandatories, while Canelo continues fighting Welterweights.
This fight needs to happen.
Comment
-
As there's an agreement, the WBC are screwed. Essentially, an agreement in legal terms is a contract. There are offers with subsequent conditions, or offers with precedential conditions. For example if I say 'I will give you my umbrella if it rains tomorrow', that is a verbal contract, legally, with a condition precedent. On the other hand 'so long as it rains, I will lend you my umbrella' is a condition subsequent.
The WBC, Hoya and Loeffler have agreed to an interim bout before continuing negotiation for a September mandatory fight. This is a condition precedent ('I will fight you if we have an interim fight'), if this is in writing, it becomes even more difficult to avoid the contractual duties required to avoid a breach of contract.
The WBC were last sued in 1997 by Rocchiagiani for refusing to uphold their contract. The court found in the plaintiff's favour for $31 million. This bankrupted the WBC who had to negotiate an out of court settlement. As of 2007, they were still struggling to pay the plaintiff $1.2 million annually.
The WBC should be scared of legal action if they continue to shirk their contractual duties of allowing the mandatory opponent a shot against the champ. That's literally the point of governing bodies. The moment they fail to uphold their rules, they can be (and should be) sued.
I imagine that either this fight will happen, or Canelo vacates. If he vacates, he'll be remembered as a duck, and probably have to face GGG anyway when he moves up in a year or two. If the fight happens, the WBCs own rules specify a 65-35 split (plus an extra 10 for other belts held, so 55-45), and that forced CWs aren't allowed. If the WBC don't uphold those rules, they can be sued, but there's nothing stopping the parties from negotiating this higher, lower, or adding CWs - the other party just need not accept.
Comment
-
The pressure is on Canelo. If GGG wants to consent to a 157-158 CW then that's fine but being the mandatory he doesn't have to bend.
I'm more interested in seeing the WBC actually taking action and stripping Canelo if he doesn't come off of his 155lb weight enforcement for MW opponents.Last edited by Deevel916; 02-17-2016, 08:32 AM.
Comment
Comment