Comments Thread For: Golovkin: Canelo 155 Demand is Crazy! He is Champion at 160!

[The plunger man]

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[SeekDaGreat]

Let's not pretend like the MW strap is the reason you won't go to 155 to fight Canelo. The reason is because you know at 155 you will probably get your ass kicked. And so do your stans, that's why they all hide behind the "160 title" just like Team Lil G does. Point blank, period. Let's not sugar coat it.

[icha]

According to Pac and Floyd recent ppv #s b4 they fought. .fans did turn on them...so it could happen to Canelo soon..and 154 to 168 doesn't mean 155..it means 154/160/168..doesn't mean 164 either ..canelo can't hide at 155 for to long..his body won't take it..as for resume ..Canelo should had fought one of those MW bums in 3G resume instead of a WW on may 7..but he trying to look great with a KO and have another NAME on his resume even if it's a WW..both mismatches but Canelo pick khan a WW ..Wade is 3G mandatory..

canelo-khan is a joke, but canelos resume still ****s all over ggg's and is not even close...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=681944

[torosboxing75]

Canelo doesn't want to fight GGG he wants to fight a shell of him.
158 is reasonable.

[hitking]

Belts haven't mattered for a very long time:

September 19, 2004:

As Hopkins, 39, celebrated with a somersault and a leap onto the ropes, De La Hoya pounded the mat in frustration, knowing that he had lost the fight that he said would define his career...

The victory doubtless gave Hopkins the respect he believed the boxing establishment denied him despite 18 successful defenses of his middleweight titles

Meanwhile, De La Hoya knew that despite winning eight titles in six weight classes since turning pro in 1992 and despite generating more pay-per-view business than any non heavyweight, this would be is most important fight.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/sp...hoya.html?_r=0

What if Hopkins wouldn't have accepted that catch-weight? Yet at 39, he did! No one cared about the 18 defenses, it was the De La Hoya fight that brought him the recognition he deserved! This is what champions do!

Honestly, the last decade and a half belts have become devalued to the point of near irrelevance. And this GGG unification nonsense is the first time in a long time that "hardcore" have cared so much about belts. Which is kinda funny. Because if you look at Manny Pacquiao, which is a fav of a lotta these belt folks. In many of his most significant fights, there was no title on the line. And on the flip side. Most of these belt folks are the same folks that b1tch'd about Floyd's competition. But if you look at his resume, he challenged a ton of then beltholders and fought unification fights. So I think a lotta this belt bull**** is GGG's fans trying to glorify the bums that he's fighting. Whether its a bum with a belt in Lemieux's case. Or a total bum in this kid he's fighting that somehow made it to the top of one of the ABC groups rankings.

[bigdunny1]

I didn't say GGG had as many Mexican fans as Canelo, I said he has a lot of Mexican fans and that number grows with each outing. As for Canelo not fighting full 160 lb guys, you endorse him weighing 175 lbs on fight night against what amounts to a 140-147 lb fighters? That has been his MO all along, fighting small guys(Cotto, Lopez, Rhodes, Gomez and the list goes on) and him outweighing them by 20+lbs on fight night. Its moronic and unfair!

Either fight in the MW division or dump the belt and move back down to 154 and fight there. Otherwise lets see what he does against a guy who can put his lights out and is his same weight? And if he is too chicken **** to do that then give up the belt and go fight 140-147 lb guys, but he will not hold a meaningful Championship belt in the MW division, that goes thru GGG.

I don't give a damn what he re hydrates to. As long as he makes weight of the contract. You act like he's the first or only fighter in boxing that makes weight then adds significant amount on fight night. Maidana was fighting at 147 and getting up to 170 on fight night. As for he only fights small guys that's BS Trout, Lara, Angulo, Kirkland are all massive JM's. All of which have fought above 154 at middleweight. Lara started his career as a Middleweight and is only a matter of time before he moves up to middleweight for the remainder of his career. Trout has fought his last 2-3 fights at middleweight. Kirkland walks around at 200lbs so does Angulo. All these guys cut massive amount of weight and re hydrate a ton just like Canelo. Canelo fought EVERY single fighter fans wanted him to and he had to agree to go down to a catchweight to defend his titles against Floyd. Yet GGG can't do it? Last thing I'll ever call Canelo is a chicken not when at age 25 he's fought the guys he's fought and at age GGG he's fought nothing but low class bums and if he would just agree to a catchweight weight he would get Canelo.

And you talking about Canelo fighting Khan who is small yet wasn't GGG trying to fight both Floyd and Manny who are both Smaller then Khan? See that's the problem here is GGG painted himself in the corner as a massive hypocrite. And if GGG wanted Canelo to dump the belt then why did he agree to a step aside? Canelo has a VOLUNTARY defense because GGG allowed it. And why did he agree to one with Cotto? I'll tell you why because the belt doesn't mean jack and GGG knows it. He wants the big money fight he don't care about the belt if he did he would of tried to get Cotto vacated and would of tried to get Canelo vacated. Floyd held the 154 belt for 2 years and NEVER defended it at 154 instead he defended it at 147. But now you care about the sanctity of the belt? Canelo, Cotto, Manny, Floyd are are bigger then any belt and they fight when and where they want. If you want to fight them it will be on their terms. And trust GGG knows it which is why that hypocrite and his fans backed him when he threw around the same demands saying I'm the A side Ward if you want to fight me agree to a catchweight of 164. GGG can't have it both ways.

[spanishboxing]

canelo-khan is a joke, but canelos resume still ****s all over ggg's and is not even close...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=681944

Canelo resume won't help him vs GGG. .bc Canelo doesn't have da skills or iQ to do anything vs GGG. ..u speak of his resume but don't say how bad he looked vs those names..n da ones he looked decent are small stationary targets..his resume is gonna look even better after may 7 wen he KO da name khan..Canelo only advantage is his size vs small guys..vs GGG he won't have any size advantage..no advantage at all..da judges won't even matter he will get KO TKO.

[MrFynest]

either GGG takes 155 or there won't be a fight.

Then there won't be a fight and GGG will be elevated to FULL 160lbs champ. You people seem to miss the big picture here. GGG is the mandatory challenger so Canelo has less leverage to make the fight at 155. Only thing GGG misses out on is a payday. The rule is simple Canelo doesn't fight GGG than GGG is the full WBC middleweight champ.

[icha]

Canelo resume won't help him vs GGG. .bc Canelo doesn't have da skills or iQ to do anything vs GGG. ..u speak of his resume but don't say how bad he looked vs those names..n da ones he looked decent are small stationary targets..his resume is gonna look even better after may 7 wen he KO da name khan..Canelo only advantage is his size vs small guys..vs GGG he won't have any size advantage..no advantage at all..da judges won't even matter he will get KO TKO.

did I or anyone implied this???
the only fight canelo looked bad was vs Floyd, he had other tough fights but that's normal when you fight quality opposition at such a young age, unlike others who get older and keep fighting tomato cans... no one at 25 or under has a better resume than canelo, not even ggg who is 34 or something...

[Citizen Koba]

Let's not pretend like the MW strap is the reason you won't go to 155 to fight Canelo. The reason is because you know at 155 you will probably get your ass kicked. And so do your stans, that's why they all hide behind the "160 title" just like Team Lil G does. Point blank, period. Let's not sugar coat it.

Maybe this is the case. Maybe team GGG know that 155 would really hurt him. Would you advise them to take the CW if that was the case? Would you want to see the fight with GGG drained to a shell?

Would you respect K2 more if they just said 'well, actually guys we thought GGG could make 154 but it turns out he can't anymore'?

Genuine question btw, I ain't fishing or anything. I think that Golovkin would be well advised to take a CW if that is what is necessary to make the fight - but obviously it wouldn't be a smart move if it'd mean draining to the point of weakness. I think Golovkin beats Canelo handily at the MW limit and my belief was (and actually still is FWIW) that he still wins at a CW - even 155 - so I'm unsure why they wouldn't take it, even if merely to call Canelos bluff.